blackdoll
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they peaked already, They are a tad boring now.
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one song is on Spotify
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On 3/12/2018 at 8:38 PM, Mamo said:1. I simply can't agree QEDDESHET uses real blast beats and grindcore techniques, as well as pig squeals and insane gutturals. They're legit brutal and Mejibray are only semi-heavy.
2. Also you're sort of being hypocritical because you say
3. But in fact QEDDESHET do actually use these vocal techniques, as well as blast beats and way heavier riffage and by that token they would be far heavier by default even without mentioning all of the other instrumental factors . As I said it's like legit western brutal vs vk semi-brutal on Mejibray's part. imo
4. Edit: Also I never said Mejibray disbanded, not that it matters lol
- So that's what makes something brutal for you? Wow such high standard.
- Ahhh no, i clearly said "riffage." Vocals are irrelevant here
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his low screams are weak, and again his vocal techniques are in relevant ass he is below average. You making it seem like he (Q's vocalist) is her
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a technique doesn't equal brutal. You have to have power/intent. For the record that is expample of brutal vocals making up for a weak instrumental something that will probably happen in vk or metalcore because the vocalists aren't that good. And Q's blast beat VS Mejibrays heavy ass backboned riffage, Q looses. Q has tech but no power. Maybe if they dropped the guitars more or added more bass or something cause it's basically girugamesh doing another genre.
- did i say you did? That was just apart of the explanation for "new" and not reposting baby crossing
Anyway im done, i let my new refound harder love for mejibray get me into a debate with a VK..........
BtW since your posting Unsraw weak ass. His female vocals > Yuki's crappy growls and scream. The riffage is the same level. Might as well give Glamm Grammar before i leave since they body most of the bands posted here.
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21 hours ago, Mamo said:Baby crossing can also be mentioned,
Although I wouldn't label 欲槽 or any of Mejibray's songs "death metal" but Genki/whatever he went by in Mejibray is definitely one of the best at utilizing death vocals and pig squeals and strange guttural. At times they could seem like one of the most brutal but at other times weaker than an anorexic body builder. As far as bands with larger discographies go they were relatively heavy but not enough to warrant calling them more brutal than say Xodiack or Re:dis or even SINCE1889. But if they put more effort into the heavy side of their sound then maybe. But as far as what they gave us... no absolutely not getting the crown in my book. And QEDDESHET songs including their two latest ones, are far heavier than anything Mejibray ever released imho.
thats why i said "off brand." Cause they wanted to go slow deathmetal
Spoilerbut they chicken out cause that wouldnt be kawaii and would scare their fans off. Probably why he didnt use his pig and gutterals and instead those whisper growls. And i already brought up baby crossing as an honorable mention. but since you said "new" i choose that track. and Meji didn't officially disband. xodiack had Kiryu to kage and the new holocaust but they werent serious plus it hard to take eros's growls seriously. since1889 was weak but cool. Re:dis only had one song (the one i posted before) and the rest was typical vk rock or under they kawaii factor. And As for the crown, a king doesnt flex all the time, just need to let his subject know what he can do. 欲槽 has backbone to it's heaviness, shit all of mejibray's ACTUAL heavy moments do. QEDDESHET doesn't it's just hanging up their with the riffage but nothing there to bust something open.
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On 3/6/2018 at 3:02 PM, AimiGen7 said:Raddock
+1 Zodia.
gremlins
birth of Sixx
Coderebirth
D'ual
Amarayx (how u spell it?)
xxx is dead
femme fatale
Akane sounding good
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On 3/4/2018 at 11:00 PM, Mamo said:Wait were they always this weak? or is that shitty low screaming throwing me off? they seem more vk in those.
Mejibray has the crown now with their off brand deathmetal have no idea why he didnt use his pig and gutturals though
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the dude with the brown hair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
where the fuck is byo at, im happy for jin though. i miss my daddy
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don't listen to Rosario To Bara or pornostar. Lycaon and Mejibray bodied them and their no reason to demean yourself.
Hate on the other hand is super fun.
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What about his voice says seductive though? Maybe the the pv that idea spawned. But the Instrumental is slow and rough as was Tsu vocals. Their was a bit of despair in both as well. He read the beat and executed as sound be. I guess it's not ur cup of tea but he canned that track. He wanted to give it that effect rather than going with his more typical vocals which he does after this release and before this release.
Mejibray defiantly has its problems like other bands that aren't at the top of the top but Tsu balances the books (since he is no longer a uninspired vocalist like he was in Vanessa) or some random legitimate metal section in the instrumental like.
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The A side is great. Rather than straining as you put it i would say he is being raw
however 蜈蚣「Mukade」it didnt go anywhere unlike apocalypse. 人間 (Ningen)'s problem was he had no flow in it unlike kairi.
and id like to add nepenthes to his best because his vibrato
and that feminine falsetto he does in baby crossing and another song.
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if Tsu isnt going wild or trying, i don't want it. Hopefully they will step their instrumental dick up. i want this or better
Spoileroh And fuck vannessa!
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i think the reason i dont like EMS as much is because they totally got bodied by born memebers. Like Moa really let Ryouga drag him with his better metalcore/djent. I can uderstand if it was tsuzuku cause he is gifted while mao is simply a decent vocalist and mejibray is low key legendary but born. Also coderebirth bodies that release but they are infect with the VK virus despite the weak harsh. Lastly there is Dadororma which is the clown of vk bodied them with their 2 good metalcore songs. Sadie doesnt get bodied. I hope they find some life like ryouga did with the road. At this point they are going to be the next black swan.
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11 hours ago, Mamo said:1. No actually it wasn't posted with deathtopia and you didn't reply to it. In fact you've still yet to acknowledge this video I guess because it hurts your "MAO ISN'T A KYO FAN GIRL" argument LMAO. Here's everything you said after "Sadie - Demon's Cradle / Sadie Forever and ever FINAL LIVE " video where he was copying Kyo. Now show me exactly where you replied to this video:
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3. I didn't forget lol I just don't care and I'm not willing to take the time to. But thanks for confirming that you're acknowledging that Madrigal de Maria sounds like Uroboros/Dum Spiro Spero. Which in case you didn't realize means "wtf are you arguing for then?" I said Sadie sounded like DEG later in their career and even if you say it's only in MDM that still means that I was right and later in their career they sounded like DEG. I mean they started in 2005 and MDM came out in 2013 and they went on hiatus in 2015 that would be consider "later in their career" right?
Like honestly I'm done now you're doing a good enough job embarrassing yourself without me lol
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QuoteBut you don't post the original look to compare and CONTRAST it too
12 hours ago, blackdoll said:wait, you are talking about the live video? I cleary replied to it, like it was you with deathtopia.
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OMG thank you so much that's one of MY sadie songs down as not diru affiliated, ewww i need to bleach my ears after that. But you might want to call for back up cause this is what you gave me for deathopia's instrumental
SpoilerDiru was metalcore when sadie was melodic, also there was now slamming in diru instead those dumb nu or crunch riffs. Vocally Mao had a pattern to his harsh switch up the harsh and complex flow while kyo blow cold farts out his mouth str8 through the verse. Also Mao has a clean singing verse. You'd have better luck convising me Megaromania's Quinset voyage was coping that trash.
3. I'm not going to wave the flag for you, you did it. You Specifically Mentioned cold blood and my baby Black diamonds. As for MDM i think it does sound like garbage so i guess yes like diru. But i remember someone on edohsama saying it was only one track that was super diru (i think @Elazmus) so honestly i have my doubts cause diru is his fav and i find him generally creditable.
herd something similar before. Don't worry about me i'm fine
SpoilerIf you still disagree at this point I don't care.
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15 hours ago, Mamo said:-
Ooooo good one. Clap clap I like how you only addressed everything I said with
good argument.
- I did "put my money where my mouth was" I told you in my first response to you that deathtopia sounded "like every br00tal song on Uroboros" and what I mean by that is it's such a generic copy and paste song that it could litterally fit anywhere on Uroboros, I mean I bet I could falsely upload it as a DEG song and no one would ever even notice lol
- Also once again you ignore the video of Mao posted above yet again. LMAO
- Also you ignore DOUKOKU which I did post with Glass Skin which it sounds identical too btw
- And you keep trying to just brush aside Madrigal de Maria and only mention the two songs from that album that you think are unique Viper and Jealousy. So I guess that means you are acknowledging that every other song on MDM sounds like Uroboros/Dum Spiro Spero?
- yeah because that's an opinion your stuck on and im not repeating myself
- thats what you call putting money up. So now it's diru's disco sounds like deathtopia or atleast all of Uroboros hard songs. That's not an explanation of copying hunny. That's like a hypothetical
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wait, you are talking about the live video? I cleary replied to it, like it was you with deathtopia.
- i clearly said deathopia or "what about" acknowledging ur evidence on that 1 song i never fully listened too.
- either i'm brushing it off or acknowledging. chose one. Don't forget i mentioned starring shitty ass too. And since you bring albums don't forget you the black diamonds in their aka gangster's prototype.
EDIT: fucking engrish "just like a spider looking for my *places"
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Ooooo good one. Clap clap I like how you only addressed everything I said with
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On 3/3/2018 at 1:49 PM, Mamo said:- Never said their weren't you can still mimic a band a be derivative without being a 100% carbon copy unlike the contrary straw man you've been attempting to pass off.
- But I didn't nore did anyone else on here as I've said 3 times now. Why would I care about a post I never mentioned or made reference to which was completely irrelevant to the conversation?
- Oh and since we're mentioning ignored posts what about the video of Mao above clearly mimicking Kyo's looks and mannerisms?
On 2/26/2018 at 9:24 AM, rekzer said:this 100%
Sadie always had DEG influence and everyone knew Mao was a Kyo fangirl.
But it was painfully obvious in Madrigal De Maria.
They learned and decided to make an album with less DEG as possible and we all know how GANGSTA turned out. I personally like about 50% of that album.
But damn Voyage is the greatest song they've ever done
2) This is what i was reply too in the first places btw. I was just asking you to put ur money where your mouth is rather than just leaving deathopia out there like spam.
On 3/3/2018 at 1:28 PM, blackdoll said:But you don't post the original look to compare and CONTRAST it too
3)^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ like i said
I really made a topic just for this but ur reply was too good. Darn it i done broke my word
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This band just has a different tuning then most of sadie stuff except a smudge of "bleach" and "gangster." They're also reminiscence of songs like gimmick, ever, daydream, grudge of the sorrow, deadly masquerade. Their last realease not so much. But with bops like baby go for it its basically grieving dead soul all over again with addictive riffage
SpoilerBoys just wanna have fun you.
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11 hours ago, Mamo said:To address every song you mentioned all at once. I never said all of their songs sound like DEG but many of them do I'm not going to take the time to look up youtube videos for various songs on the 3 albums.
but you def brought up deathtopia tho. And well those are the songs that matter. But typical cult fan, cant put the money where the mouth is. But you had the time to claim plagrism though.
11 hours ago, Mamo said:I can only laugh at this because you know they look the same but if you want to play make believe be my guest.
please dont project. The hair is different, the outfit is different, the mask (the piece of the look your reaching for) is different as well. Can you not tell different from a ripped stocking cap, and a ripped shirt with two layers (black and silver). bad eyes a brain that didn't notice that isnt a laughing matter, i hope you are not driving.
11 hours ago, Mamo said:Thanks I thought so.
for there to be similarities there must be differences. Good for you.
11 hours ago, Mamo said:Um right here *⇧ last I checked it's track 1
You implied right here that peole are still always saying Mao is copying Kyo and I was saying, "no I'm not saying the THIRTEEN is copying DIR EN GREY" nore has anyone else that I know of. I was only talking about just to be 100% clear "CERTAIN" Sadie songs from 2010-2013 which was a pretty significant number of songs and I'm not going to take time to mention every single one of them and list their comprable DEG song. If you still disagree at this point I don't care.
Pain after Pain was example of what people call mao coping kyo, and since i linked mr brave man i thought that was clear that it was just a example of one his vocals.
On 1/3/2018 at 9:32 AM, Shaolan974 said:EVIL MAD SCIENCEwas surprisingly good. They are better when they try to be Sadie (because Sadie tried to be DIR EN GREY)
but continue to skip post and stuff
10 hours ago, rekzer said:Mao was cosplaying as kyo there xD
But you don't post the original look to compare and CONTRAST it too
7 hours ago, The Piass said:TYPE C : 2300 yen + taxes
CD :
1 urge to live urge to die
2 アリア- Aria-
3 THE DIM LIGHT OF DUSK
4 Avenge the hatred
5 Mellow
6 春紫苑 (harushion)
ewwwwww it looks like they're following EMS.
1 hour ago, tetsu_sama69 said:Perhaps this great conversation about Sadie and Mao's style can go to an artist discussion page instead of cluttering up the updates for the album?
I'm done. I'm going back to listening to mainly listen Screw and Mejibray anyway with paradeis. okay, baby go for it, and bleach's voice of pain and Oburu sakana or also in spin. No need to report me and have the mods give me another warning
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1 hour ago, Mamo said:LMFAO Um... every single br00tal song on Uroboros.
So all the songs on Uroboros was is deathtopia, or each section from deathtopia is lifted from Deathtopia tracks. And since you mind proofing "Sabaku no Syndrome" what about Graceful angle. I forgot about Graceful.
1 hour ago, Mamo said:The Black Diamonds
SpoilerReally???? Sounds like Dustin fucker life and stuff. Same old loud random breakdown nonsense
1 hour ago, Mamo said:Spoileryou and the Diru cult might want to double check that or make a eye doctor appointment
1 hour ago, Mamo said:Did you not get my nod? ONLY VIPER AND JELOUSY. I guess you can add strarring
1 hour ago, Mamo said:similarities
Nice word choice
1 hour ago, Mamo said:Also Evil Mad Science isn't coping DEG at all and me or no one else even said it was. I was only talking about Sadie and specifically Sadie from 2010-2013.
Where did i type "Evil Mad Science"? but Shaolan974 did and people liked it. Also that EMS thread
1 hour ago, Mamo said:Bro the thing is I'mma fan of Sadie from beginning to end with the exception of Gangsta I like every Sadie album. 3.
not that it matters but i like 86 sadie songs, ima a fan of 50-75% of those, i like atleast one song from each release as sadie isnt a everything is good band. I like all of the thirteen and a fan of 80-90%. Though if they continue with Evil mad Science i might tap out as it is garbage compared to bleach's rerecordings as i said on the hate thread.
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On 2/26/2018 at 8:10 AM, Mamo said:and what was deathtopia copying? and if you don't mind dear also Sabaku no Syndrome?
On 2/26/2018 at 9:24 AM, rekzer said:this 100%
Sadie always had DEG influence and everyone knew Mao was a Kyo fangirl.
But it was painfully obvious in Madrigal De Maria.
They learned and decided to make an album with less DEG as possible and we all know how GANGSTA turned out. I personally like about 50% of that album.
But damn Voyage is the greatest song they've ever done
turned out great and high key pissed the diru cult off. They tried to mask it by laughing and cracking jokes. The black diamonds?
Also what was viper coping? aka the only really good MDM song along with jealousy
But this whole mao is a kyo fangirl thing is null. It's like turn on the radio or listen to western brutal metal. Vocals lanes intersect. It's not about Kyo, that's just how he wants to sound at the time. One moment it's pain after pain next min it's
SpoilerIf he was a fan girl he would be a carbon copy of kyo and the thirteen and most of sadie's songs wouldn't exist. And that fact that their is even a debate about when they started coping Diru and what's original means they were never copying and that certain diru songs or albums have higher significance to people so they stretch to claim plagiarism like a cheapskate scattering to claim deductions on their taxes.
2038: "this new mao band is coping dir en grey"
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21 hours ago, Bear said:Sadie did hardcore and melodic death metal? Got any examples on this?
so this guy says bite the black is swedish melodic death
TF
Spoilerstill it not sadie, their melodic sounds different.... Also He say Kyo aint the only influence
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11 hours ago, lichtlune said:Blasphemy no, Correct yes.
I got the receipts though
SpoilerSorry but The Piass wasnt pussy-kei despite the weak screaming and shouting. That's why i love them. They broke the typical kawaii metal limit with that heavy ass riffage that was done perfectly. Though i think those weak screams oddly worked for the band because if Eros (Ice) was on vocals his more powerful unclean would have messed it up the dynamic which was fun instead of going hard and flopping like Deviloof, Xodiack Nocturnal Bloodlust, Awoi ect.
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8 hours ago, Bear said:Sadie did hardcore and melodic death metal? Got any examples on this?
not a 100 but that fusion melodic death that i came across. or maybe just melodic riffage as i don't fully grasp the concepts of metal genres
SpoilerHardcore, umm i listen to german bands and rise of the north star and it sounds similar enough, just weaker, not raw. So again probably just elements. Though the bands i listen to are flexible with the riffage. Chaotic World got taken off
SpoilerFeel free to correct me on the genre. Whatever it was, it was random nonsense which is sadie.
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holy fuck they are good live. I would totally pay to see them.
On 7/2/2017 at 6:00 AM, Tokage said:tbf this literally sounds exactly the same to me as deviloof and all those other bands
This isnt deathcore though, this is death metal. Deviloof's guy and hiro cant grow or scream good/proper either and barely use pig vocals. Maybe comeback when your sober?
On 7/2/2017 at 7:19 AM, BrenGun said:It sound not that bad.
But just their look and this type of metal makes it very funny to watch.
This type of metal you shouldn't mix with visual kei image. Just doesn't fit
what's the difference though? they look black metal-ish, fleshgod apocalypse uses make up and costumes. They are picking up where The piass and Aikaryu left off.
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I don't like this new single as much. I think the mixing on jojo voice is off. He usally sounds daddy as fuck. But this was mehh. I hope he isnt falling apart. Maybe he is Tsuzuku's son rather than Tsu being his son. The instrumental was the usual goodness but not good enough. I'll give jojo one more chance before ghosting this band