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36 minutes ago, Saishu said:Shinya was shook by Sakura’s performance.
http://kyotakumrau.tumblr.com/post/177994873017/moi-meme-moitie-twitter-20180910-mana様からdir-en
Love him. He really supports the guys in the scene.
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3 hours ago, Reiko said:I wanna know more about this so badly........
Me too. I guess we should organize ourselves and send a Japanese-skilled person to ask for us on the Japanese boards...
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3 minutes ago, seikun said:I think his singing is poor and needs improvement. The other musicians are good, but the vocal is behind and needs to catch up. I'm not saying he has to be the perfect singer; I'm just saying his vocals are poor to the point it needs to be addressed.
I listen to many bands that didn't have the best vocalists, but at least they were better and worked on it to make it better. It's their job.
The very hard reality of this scene since its beggining...
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The preview kinda bored me, but the whole song looks amazing! I've never thought Dir will do a Luna Sea-esque song again since Yurameki... Also the visuals are savage.
Cool return to the roots😍
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31 minutes ago, Peace Heavy mk II said:It's unfortunate that a scene that could allow for so much creativity and expression, both visually and audibly, attracts all sorts of scummy people because the target audience is vulnerable and impressionable.
This is something I've been thinking since I realized I loved vk more than any other music scene. I'd love to discuss it in another thread. It's really sad to get confirmed with facts and within the opinion of the community what every "normal" person with "normal" music tastes around you said when you came to discover it and fell in love... The negative appreciation on vk being a bunch of crazy people doing shitty music seems transcultural at this point...
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Love this testimony! Would love to hear more...
Shinya was always my favorite member, followed by Toshiya. The two of them are actually the most skilled ones you the band.
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Gosh, I love it. This is the kind of look they deserve...
May the Adidas crazyness be kept in their cringe-vault, along with their 1998 Budokan performance, and NEVER try to come back...
Dir will be always vk, no matter what they say...
Oh, and that's a VK feature magazine. Interesting move. I can remember when they stopped to circulate into those magazines when they started their MOAB era...
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12 hours ago, LIDL said:Probably another one of Kyo's anti abortion themed stuffs. #ProLife
I feel some kind of weird when I realize the many awesome songs penned by Kyo (or Ruki, also) that are clearly anti-abortion hymns... Then I remember that Japan is far, very far indeed from lightening their heads with a little of genre conscience...
Well, I just try to avoid thast thoughts lol
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Wow, Dir has finally gone vk all the way! This even sounds almost like a Luna Sea ballad, like someone above said.
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Very cringe-worthy indeed.
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As the title says, I'm interested in recruiting members for:
1) compiling available tabs of vk music in the web;
2) correcting them if they have mistakes;
3) transcribing published official "band scores" using interactive virtual score plataforms (like GuitarPro);
4) looking up for the said scores scans on the Web or buy them;
4) transcribing by ear songs that doesn't have an official "band score" release in Japan;
5) finally making up a single and exhaustive archive for the tabs.
Anyone interested?
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At some point it's just just a matter of persons trying to obtain acknowledging of others for the things they love. Also, consider that this is a central issue specially within teenage years (I'm sure 90% of the fanbase we are taking about are teenage and young adults), a period of life where happens a deep reconstruction of oneself's identity. Yet vk is far from being a mainstream scene, so the amount of said acknowledging you can take from being enthusiastic about it is perhaps null. And also you really can't wait from them to understand, for example, the recalling aspects of same bands with, for example, Kuroyume. In my own experience, it took me almost ten years and a deep understanding of musical theory to actually come to realize the specific criteria and values of the scene in terms of music, lyrics and performance, and the system of genealogy relations between certain artists, and so on. But before then... I must say I was a rabid 2009 AN Cafe fan lol
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Any more info on this revival?
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On 8/24/2018 at 5:37 AM, Disposable said:in real talk all this talk about post-core amphibian dainty-punk is getting very tiresome, especially since the main proponents of creating these inane subgenres and categories and marketing gimmicks come from people who've been listening to metal for two weeks and think they're now on the up and up for discovering ritual ambient or some shit like that.
A band like Dir en grey is impossible to strictly, or at least in a very definitive way, to categorise because they're a combination of two very amorphous musical traditions of visual kei and metal anyway. Their nu-metal base acquired somewhere midway through their career has been almost completely transformed thrice over due to the accumulations of sounds and techniques they've kept on acquiring over the years, and while visual kei is a strange case in of itself ( like, you can still hear the influence of X and Luna sea from almost every band, namely in vocal melodies and how guitar solos function, or that even in 2018 a vk song exceeding 2 minutes in length would not be caught dead without a chorus ) Dir en grey is unique even within that context. They've had progressive elements and done weird shit through mazohyst to hotarubi and then revisited these techniques again and again later on ‑ all the while having songs seemingly contrast in genre on the same release; and despite this there's still a common thread and heritage running through their stuff, but it just defies simple category since they're quite unique. Even if what I just wrote doesn't make any sense, the point still stands that there's else you could call THE UNRAVELING other than visual kei or alternative rock/metal, and neither of those in today's context mean much of anything.
I'm very happy reading this. First, Disposable is actually acknowledging that there certainly IS a particular sound for visual kei (And that is a hard thing to realize, considering the fact that no matter how the majority of the fanbase try to simply deny its existence, or else try to "explain" it reducing itself to nonsensical and very vast categories like "Japanese goth" or even "Japanese metal", or ways like that). Second, he also gives a special place to this kind of sound into Dir's arrangement genealogy till today.
Happy.
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On 8/23/2018 at 6:51 AM, Disposable said:Jesus that's fucking rank. I want to say yes, but for some reason I recall these, almost wing-like things at the far ends of the D and Y. There exists a shirt for this tour ( Unwavering something of tomorrow? ) with just a straight up band pic with the logo. It was easily the worst shirt from them I've ever seen. This was at least for the 2010 London show
edit: found it
Beautiful
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Wow, this dudes still keeping on touring? I really love Dear song and Notice from the.! Love this kind of primitive vk sound that had the post-punk influence in their sound almost untouched...
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4 hours ago, emmny said:LMFAO the double river dudes are collecting anyone who was ever in a band in nagoya, is now homeless and hooking them up with a slave contract as long as they'll pretend to play their instruments
I LIVE
More info, please!
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23 minutes ago, Kelrya said:I don’t really get why Kyo hates Guaze so much, there are a lot of similarities between Guaze and Macabre/Kisou and Sukekiyo’s music.
Over the time I came to really think that it is not like they actually hate it, or the whole vk-era, for instance. That is easily plausible since the DSS and Arche-era tours, when they started to recover not only their theatrical and outrageous fashion, but also some of their most vk-rooted classics (like Aoi tsuki, or the classic version of Byoushin; my head almost exploded when I noticed they played the first in one of their Budokan performances). So, rather than wanting it to "dissapear" (following what Kyo repeated in many of their first foreign interviews, when they were asked for the filliation with the term "visual-kei", once the West came to discover) I think they were actually creating what they considered a healthy distance with the vk scene concept when they started touring abroad. In fact, many of the bands that folowed that pioneering-trend back in 2007 (like Mucc, D'espairs) also understood that they needed to tone-down their image in order to get more appealing to the scenes they thought they could fit in in the West (the punk and metal scenes).
IMHO they were, and still can be considered, a "visual-kei" band in many ways, no matter how far the sound of "Ningen wo kaburu" can appear to be that distant from "Garden".
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This are the examples that force us to reconsider what's the meaning of vk nowadays... This kind of idolized-bands, produced strictly to deliver fangirl fantasies, makes my head explode in cringe... I guess we won't be getting any genuine band in the scene ever again... I wish I lived in Japan in the 90s lol
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16 hours ago, Disposable said:The Mode of Macabre is so good. Best DVD out of this series hands down.
egnirys is a top tier vk song, and it's only lost in the shuffle because comes from a band that up to this point had only put out straight heat anyway
Egnirys is one of Diru's sweetest highlights in their whole career. Pure sophisticated experimentation. Never came to hear something like that again in Diru, or in vk. And that solo. 11/10.
This song is also one of the reasons to let grow hate on them, because "hey buddy, u like this vk song??? Cuz we r feeling like nevur play it again Cuz we are tough guyzzz who hate vk and like their music heavyyyy Woooo". Classic Dir.
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1 hour ago, Saishu said:I’ve said this. I wish DEG would delve deeper into a more progressive/post-rock sound and ditch the BOOGA BOOGA FOOCHA stuff. Things have gotten a bit stale in that department.
"BOOGA BOOGA FOOCHA stuff". Loved it. Never that well described.
1 hour ago, Saishu said:But, you know, Kaoru.
Kaoru what?
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This.
VK became quickly very stereotypical in terms of visuals. What I always consider a genre sometimes makes me wonder if it isn't lack of creativity and wanting to appeal to hysterical bangya.
For me, Dir is one of the few bands that always tried to put out something new each time they did a release.
And, yeah, I don't get how bands like Kiryu stay that popular nowadays. They had their peak of creativity, they amazed us, and then just fell off doing the fucking same for each release...