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    Ikna got a reaction from Shir0 in METEOROID band name change to "MeteoroiD"   
    This! We already have enough groups that look like Royz & Co. So I guess it's fine if there is another "we are edgy and dark" band. Also it's VK and in VK bands have copied each other since basically forever. I think it's interesting though how this band went from typical 2010s colourful VK to a darker style as it's normally the other way round (but then we don't have any preview of their new sound yet only a trailer. Maybe they still end up sounding completely different than AvelCain)
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    Ikna reacted to nekkichi in Mother/Daughter Come Out About Lesbian Relationship   
    now that's a truly powerful feminist response to all that abundant son/dad gay fanfiction, yaaaaas @ this declaration of empowerment and gender equality
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    Ikna reacted to Zeus in Lycaon   
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    Ikna reacted to hyura in Madeth gray'll kanji/romaji/translation; tragedy in 6 acts   
    Zwei
    堕胎者ト盲目ナ中絶児・・69日目ノ阻害
    Dataisha to moumoku na chuuzetsuji.. 69 nichime no sogai
    An abortionist and a blind aborted child.. termination on the 69th day

    赫い赫い「悲命」産み出す 死骸嘔き出す堕罪者と僕
    Akai akai 'himei' umidasu
    Giving birth to a red red 'sad life'
    Shigai hakidasu dazaisha to boku
    Me and the sinner squeezing out it's remains
    命殺がれた痛み 未遂の僕は許さない
    Inochi sogareta itami
    Pain slicing pieces off my life
    Misui no boku wa yurusanai
    The attempt I am won't allow this

    残酷なる 痛み 殺し 静かに叫ぶ堕胎者と僕
    Zankokunaru
    It gets cruel
    Itami
    Pain
    Koroshi
    Murder
    Shizuka ni sakebu dataisha to boku
    Me and an aborted child crying silently
    奇形の僕を吊るし 苦痛の喜びさらけ出す
    Kikei no boku o tsurushi
    They hang up the deformity I am
    Kutsuu no yorokobi sarakedasu
    Exposing how much they enjoy my agony

    …Despair…abash…suicide…
    ・・in the subconscious・・
    ・・in the subconscious・・
    「DEATH」「VICE」「MAD」「SUICIDE」

    ・・モウ・・ワラエナイヨ・・「思考」・・歪マサレ・・
    ..Mou.. waraenai yo.. 'shikou'.. yugamasare..
    ..I can't laugh.. anymore.. 'my thinking'.. is distorted..
    ・・痺レ始メタ神経 脳髄ニ異常ガ・・発病・・
    ..Shibire hajimeta shinkei
    ..Nerves turning numb
    Nouzui ni ijou ga.. hatsubyou..
    Disorder attacks.. in my brain..

    ・・胎児ノ僕ガ崩レル 盲目ニ溶ケ爛レル・・
    ..Taiji no boku ga kuzureru
    ..The embryo I am is crumbling
    Moumoku ni toketadareru..
    Melting,  festering into blindness..
    ・・切リ刻マレ・・流レ出ス・・肉片トアタマ・・抜ケ殻・・
    ..Setsuri kizamare.. nagaredasu.. nikuhen to atama.. nukegara..
    ..Chopped up... pouring out.. pieces of flesh and my head.. cast-off skin..

    「interruption」
    ××××シタ中絶児
    ××××shita chuuzetsuji
    ××××ed aborted child

    ・・Erosion・・to・・sad・・
    「zwei」「drei」
    ・・Erosion・・to・・sad・・
    「zwei」「drei」

    …腐食シタ体…再生…蘇生シタ脳髄…
    ...Fushokushita karada… saisei… soseishita nouzui…
    ...A corroded body... resuscitation... A reorganizing brain...
    EINS=「人差し指」
              'Hitosashiyubi'
              'Index finger'
    ZWEI=「中指」
              'Nakayubi'
              'Middle finger'
    DREI=「薬指」
              'Kusuriyubi'
              'Ring finger'
    VIER=「親指」
              'Oyayubi'
              'Thumb'

    ・・切断・・
    ..Setsudan..
    ..Amputation..
     
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    Ikna reacted to hyura in Madeth gray'll kanji/romaji/translation; tragedy in 6 acts   
    生命の終焉
    Seimei no shuuen
    The demise of existence

    Lalala...

    思い出の異空間
    Omoide no ikuukan
    I remember the unusual space
    君を… 君を埋葬した
    Kimi o...
    Where you...
    kimi o maisoushita
    Where you were buried
    この花園には
    Kono hanazono ni wa
    In this flower garden
    幼い罪人達が
    Osanai tsumibitotachi ga
    Once more, there is one
    また、一人
    Mata, hitori
    Of the childish sinners
    薄紅の花が舞うこの夜に
    Usubeni no hana ga mau kono yoru ni
    Light crimson flowers are dancing through this night
    呪われた魔鏡に映された僕達は
    Norowareta makyou ni utsusareta bokutachi wa
    Reflected in the devils cursed mirror*, we have
    自らの手で
    Mizukara no te de
    Ruined
    自らの命を
    Mizukara no inochi wo
    Our own life
    滅びました
    Horobimashita
    With our own hands
    やがて季節は…
    Yagate kisetsu wa...
    Eventually the season...
    また、春になるけど
    Mata haru ni naru kedo
    Once more, spring is coming, but
    この花園にはもう春のかな…
    Kono hanazono ni wa mou haru no kana...
    I wonder if it's already spring in this flower garden...
     
     
     
    ---
    This doesn't have lyrics printed in the booklet, so I translated it by ear. Bear in mind there can be mistakes~
    Thanks to @Uglymouth for helping out!
     
     
    makyou - 魔境 actually means "haunts of wicked men" but the second kanji was replaced with 鏡 - "mirror" here (as well as in the title of the album and this 'act'), making it a 'devils mirror'.  As we know by now hisui loves things reflected in mirrors
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    Ikna reacted to pawzord in Sadie new album "GANGSTA" release   
    Just wait for their new look and cd covers.
    expecting this :

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    Ikna reacted to Peace Heavy mk II in Describe the type of Japanese Music you like (without using genre or common terms).   
    Frilly, out of tune, cross dresser shit recorded on a $15 budget by bandmen whom barely know how to play their instruments. The more chinchillas, feathers, && leathers, the better. Faux-french and / or clavichords are an added bonus.
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    Ikna reacted to Zeus in KISAKI conspiracy? Strange things I noticed related to Kisaki's old bands Levia and LAYBIAL   
    Getting caught for tax evasion, selling faked "rare" demo tapes of your first bands to sell online for money, and fabricating stories about your hospitalization complete with pictures ripped off of Google are not what I would call "small things". Those are what I would call big things, and I could remember those three things off the top of my head. Kisaki has a knack for drawing lots of attention to himself, mostly negative. I'm pretty sure he's an attention succubus and thrives on it to keep himself going.
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    Ikna got a reaction from Tetora in Visual kei is dead! (at least on youtube)   
    Also another thread where we can discuss this whole "old VK is better/worse" thing (Gaz posted a link to another thread)
     
    The title of this thread is definitely misleading a bit. Also everyone else has said, what's to say and mentioned the shift in interests, copyright and so on. I want to add a bit of my perspective, mainly from my subjective experience with the Austrian and German fanbase, which is mostly based on real life experiences (with my rather tiny and small local VK fanbase) and what i have witnessed on several national and German Forums, Boards and Websites.
     
    I came in contact with VK in 2003 and 2004. I have heard of it even earlier in Anime Magazines, but didn't pay any attention to it. Back at this time it was difficult to get information on VK bands. Only if you have been to Japan yourself you would have come into contact with more obscure indies bands. The groups that were known over here were all the big groups, the ones signed to major labels or which were pretty popular and well established: Dir en grey, Malice Mizer, Buck-Tick, Luna Sea, Pierrot, L'arc~en~Ciel, Moi dix Mois and Gackt (technically not VK, but he was in Malice and so appealed to the european fans). My first real experience with VK was, when the distributor Gan-Shin was founded and started to release some VK CDs here. Mind you, they were still hard to get, at least in Austria. Only one store carried Dir en grey and Moi dix Mois' albums and so I bought them. The only reason why I knew about these bands was because of Manga magazines.
     
    I am sure there were several people in the early 00s who came to VK not through the Anime "Scene" but I'll say for the majority of the fanbase at this time this was the entrance. Let's say 90% of the German fanbase at least was compromised of Manga reading Weaboos, who threw around japanese words in their German sentences, because it was so cool and so on. VK appealed to them, because they already lived in a fantasy world and bubble, where everything is "kawaii" and where Japan was the garden Eden of the Earth, filled with hot crossdressing men. The Anime fandom was very big at the time, as we were still in the midst of the Anime and Manga boom, which started somewhere in the mid to late 90s. Everything japanese was considered "fresh", "new" and "exotic".
     
    Now more then 10 years have passed and surely the world isn't the same. Nowadays everything is much more accessible. You don't need to spend shitton of money and habe patience to be able to get your hands on a new CD of your favourite VK band. You can buy their CD now easily in Online Stores or just download them. The Anime and Manga boom is over too. Being a Weaboo was always frowned upon, but today it seems to have become an even heavier stigma. In the 00s young teens still could go away trying to appear unique and cool by dressing up as self proclaimed "Visus" (yeah, they really saw Visual kei as some kind of subculture…) and shout "people who criticize me just don't understand it!". But if you do this today, then you are considered highly immature, dumb and annoying.
     
    Of course most of those "Visus" grew out of it (and very fast). Almost no one of these people I knew (and have even seen in real life) sticked to it. Most of them moved on and became "normal". Others entered other subcultures in the course of the 00s (such as Scene and recently Hipster). A big majority of them don't even want to remember their old self, when they cosplayed as Kyo or Ruki daily (even to school) and probaböy washed their hair only once every 8 days (I am not joking. Many Visus' outfits and body hygiene were bad). I have to say that the current and modern fanbase isn't nearly as crazy as the old one. The cosplays and outfits have gotten better and I feel the amount of delusional fans has started to decrease.
     
    So simply put: because it was new and because the Anime/Manga community offered a quick and well guided portal to it, VK was very popular here between 2004 and 2008. It was still fresh and the many japanese oriented fansites and boards were often the only information sources – hence there was also a bit more of a sense of community. Many places were similiar in activity and interest as MH is now. People regulary chatted about what band X is doing, even if the topics were often arbitrary. When I look into the same forums today, there is almost no activity left. That surely gives you the impression as if the VK fan scene would be dead. But MH actually disproves it. I'd say that since VK has become "normalized" and doesn't seem so new and exotic anymore (and since many people have stopped paying attention to it), the scene has become a lot smaller.
     
    It's true however (but that's more for the new vs old VK thread) that many people left the scene, because the music has changed and they don't pay any attention to newer releases. I am sure some of them still enjoy the old music they have come to like, but they don't care about any new releases or bands. I myself had stopped listening to VK between 2006 and 2007 (which was a rather short pause anyway). VK lost some fans, as it started to become different, but as you can see it also gained new ones. I guess we could discuss this as some kind of generational conflict (as many of the new fans are in the age we old ones were when we first discovered VK, but yet grew up with other music and have different tastes) in the other thread.
     
    Also finally: are music videos really that important anymore? I have the feeling that it's not only limited to VK, but the overall music scene. Music videos don't seem to have the same value as they did maybe 10 or 20 years ago, when MVs were broadcasted on MTV (when it was still mainly a music TV channel) and MVs were often produced with high budget. My mom used to own Michael Jackson's Thriller music video on VHS and it was the extended long edition with Making of. The VHS was probably around 2 or 3 hours. It was expensive, but she loved it and watched it many times. How often do we modern consumers watch a MV? Would we buy a MV with making of for 20-30€? I don't think so. Many people have stated they watch PVs and MVs one time on youtube and never again. We live in a world, where everything has started to become fast lived and is consumed like Junk Food. This is logical, because the WWW offers so much and in masses at a few clicks. Our consuming behaviour isn't the same, so I guess the aproach to MVs and PVs has changed drastically. I know a band which personally would like to make MVs for their music, but they don't do it, because they know people would watch them one time and it would be more expensive and profitable. And before they are forced to do a 0815 cheap low budget one they rather produce none.
  10. Like
    Ikna got a reaction from hyura in Visual kei is dead! (at least on youtube)   
    Also another thread where we can discuss this whole "old VK is better/worse" thing (Gaz posted a link to another thread)
     
    The title of this thread is definitely misleading a bit. Also everyone else has said, what's to say and mentioned the shift in interests, copyright and so on. I want to add a bit of my perspective, mainly from my subjective experience with the Austrian and German fanbase, which is mostly based on real life experiences (with my rather tiny and small local VK fanbase) and what i have witnessed on several national and German Forums, Boards and Websites.
     
    I came in contact with VK in 2003 and 2004. I have heard of it even earlier in Anime Magazines, but didn't pay any attention to it. Back at this time it was difficult to get information on VK bands. Only if you have been to Japan yourself you would have come into contact with more obscure indies bands. The groups that were known over here were all the big groups, the ones signed to major labels or which were pretty popular and well established: Dir en grey, Malice Mizer, Buck-Tick, Luna Sea, Pierrot, L'arc~en~Ciel, Moi dix Mois and Gackt (technically not VK, but he was in Malice and so appealed to the european fans). My first real experience with VK was, when the distributor Gan-Shin was founded and started to release some VK CDs here. Mind you, they were still hard to get, at least in Austria. Only one store carried Dir en grey and Moi dix Mois' albums and so I bought them. The only reason why I knew about these bands was because of Manga magazines.
     
    I am sure there were several people in the early 00s who came to VK not through the Anime "Scene" but I'll say for the majority of the fanbase at this time this was the entrance. Let's say 90% of the German fanbase at least was compromised of Manga reading Weaboos, who threw around japanese words in their German sentences, because it was so cool and so on. VK appealed to them, because they already lived in a fantasy world and bubble, where everything is "kawaii" and where Japan was the garden Eden of the Earth, filled with hot crossdressing men. The Anime fandom was very big at the time, as we were still in the midst of the Anime and Manga boom, which started somewhere in the mid to late 90s. Everything japanese was considered "fresh", "new" and "exotic".
     
    Now more then 10 years have passed and surely the world isn't the same. Nowadays everything is much more accessible. You don't need to spend shitton of money and habe patience to be able to get your hands on a new CD of your favourite VK band. You can buy their CD now easily in Online Stores or just download them. The Anime and Manga boom is over too. Being a Weaboo was always frowned upon, but today it seems to have become an even heavier stigma. In the 00s young teens still could go away trying to appear unique and cool by dressing up as self proclaimed "Visus" (yeah, they really saw Visual kei as some kind of subculture…) and shout "people who criticize me just don't understand it!". But if you do this today, then you are considered highly immature, dumb and annoying.
     
    Of course most of those "Visus" grew out of it (and very fast). Almost no one of these people I knew (and have even seen in real life) sticked to it. Most of them moved on and became "normal". Others entered other subcultures in the course of the 00s (such as Scene and recently Hipster). A big majority of them don't even want to remember their old self, when they cosplayed as Kyo or Ruki daily (even to school) and probaböy washed their hair only once every 8 days (I am not joking. Many Visus' outfits and body hygiene were bad). I have to say that the current and modern fanbase isn't nearly as crazy as the old one. The cosplays and outfits have gotten better and I feel the amount of delusional fans has started to decrease.
     
    So simply put: because it was new and because the Anime/Manga community offered a quick and well guided portal to it, VK was very popular here between 2004 and 2008. It was still fresh and the many japanese oriented fansites and boards were often the only information sources – hence there was also a bit more of a sense of community. Many places were similiar in activity and interest as MH is now. People regulary chatted about what band X is doing, even if the topics were often arbitrary. When I look into the same forums today, there is almost no activity left. That surely gives you the impression as if the VK fan scene would be dead. But MH actually disproves it. I'd say that since VK has become "normalized" and doesn't seem so new and exotic anymore (and since many people have stopped paying attention to it), the scene has become a lot smaller.
     
    It's true however (but that's more for the new vs old VK thread) that many people left the scene, because the music has changed and they don't pay any attention to newer releases. I am sure some of them still enjoy the old music they have come to like, but they don't care about any new releases or bands. I myself had stopped listening to VK between 2006 and 2007 (which was a rather short pause anyway). VK lost some fans, as it started to become different, but as you can see it also gained new ones. I guess we could discuss this as some kind of generational conflict (as many of the new fans are in the age we old ones were when we first discovered VK, but yet grew up with other music and have different tastes) in the other thread.
     
    Also finally: are music videos really that important anymore? I have the feeling that it's not only limited to VK, but the overall music scene. Music videos don't seem to have the same value as they did maybe 10 or 20 years ago, when MVs were broadcasted on MTV (when it was still mainly a music TV channel) and MVs were often produced with high budget. My mom used to own Michael Jackson's Thriller music video on VHS and it was the extended long edition with Making of. The VHS was probably around 2 or 3 hours. It was expensive, but she loved it and watched it many times. How often do we modern consumers watch a MV? Would we buy a MV with making of for 20-30€? I don't think so. Many people have stated they watch PVs and MVs one time on youtube and never again. We live in a world, where everything has started to become fast lived and is consumed like Junk Food. This is logical, because the WWW offers so much and in masses at a few clicks. Our consuming behaviour isn't the same, so I guess the aproach to MVs and PVs has changed drastically. I know a band which personally would like to make MVs for their music, but they don't do it, because they know people would watch them one time and it would be more expensive and profitable. And before they are forced to do a 0815 cheap low budget one they rather produce none.
  11. Like
    Ikna got a reaction from DogManX in Visual kei is dead! (at least on youtube)   
    Also another thread where we can discuss this whole "old VK is better/worse" thing (Gaz posted a link to another thread)
     
    The title of this thread is definitely misleading a bit. Also everyone else has said, what's to say and mentioned the shift in interests, copyright and so on. I want to add a bit of my perspective, mainly from my subjective experience with the Austrian and German fanbase, which is mostly based on real life experiences (with my rather tiny and small local VK fanbase) and what i have witnessed on several national and German Forums, Boards and Websites.
     
    I came in contact with VK in 2003 and 2004. I have heard of it even earlier in Anime Magazines, but didn't pay any attention to it. Back at this time it was difficult to get information on VK bands. Only if you have been to Japan yourself you would have come into contact with more obscure indies bands. The groups that were known over here were all the big groups, the ones signed to major labels or which were pretty popular and well established: Dir en grey, Malice Mizer, Buck-Tick, Luna Sea, Pierrot, L'arc~en~Ciel, Moi dix Mois and Gackt (technically not VK, but he was in Malice and so appealed to the european fans). My first real experience with VK was, when the distributor Gan-Shin was founded and started to release some VK CDs here. Mind you, they were still hard to get, at least in Austria. Only one store carried Dir en grey and Moi dix Mois' albums and so I bought them. The only reason why I knew about these bands was because of Manga magazines.
     
    I am sure there were several people in the early 00s who came to VK not through the Anime "Scene" but I'll say for the majority of the fanbase at this time this was the entrance. Let's say 90% of the German fanbase at least was compromised of Manga reading Weaboos, who threw around japanese words in their German sentences, because it was so cool and so on. VK appealed to them, because they already lived in a fantasy world and bubble, where everything is "kawaii" and where Japan was the garden Eden of the Earth, filled with hot crossdressing men. The Anime fandom was very big at the time, as we were still in the midst of the Anime and Manga boom, which started somewhere in the mid to late 90s. Everything japanese was considered "fresh", "new" and "exotic".
     
    Now more then 10 years have passed and surely the world isn't the same. Nowadays everything is much more accessible. You don't need to spend shitton of money and habe patience to be able to get your hands on a new CD of your favourite VK band. You can buy their CD now easily in Online Stores or just download them. The Anime and Manga boom is over too. Being a Weaboo was always frowned upon, but today it seems to have become an even heavier stigma. In the 00s young teens still could go away trying to appear unique and cool by dressing up as self proclaimed "Visus" (yeah, they really saw Visual kei as some kind of subculture…) and shout "people who criticize me just don't understand it!". But if you do this today, then you are considered highly immature, dumb and annoying.
     
    Of course most of those "Visus" grew out of it (and very fast). Almost no one of these people I knew (and have even seen in real life) sticked to it. Most of them moved on and became "normal". Others entered other subcultures in the course of the 00s (such as Scene and recently Hipster). A big majority of them don't even want to remember their old self, when they cosplayed as Kyo or Ruki daily (even to school) and probaböy washed their hair only once every 8 days (I am not joking. Many Visus' outfits and body hygiene were bad). I have to say that the current and modern fanbase isn't nearly as crazy as the old one. The cosplays and outfits have gotten better and I feel the amount of delusional fans has started to decrease.
     
    So simply put: because it was new and because the Anime/Manga community offered a quick and well guided portal to it, VK was very popular here between 2004 and 2008. It was still fresh and the many japanese oriented fansites and boards were often the only information sources – hence there was also a bit more of a sense of community. Many places were similiar in activity and interest as MH is now. People regulary chatted about what band X is doing, even if the topics were often arbitrary. When I look into the same forums today, there is almost no activity left. That surely gives you the impression as if the VK fan scene would be dead. But MH actually disproves it. I'd say that since VK has become "normalized" and doesn't seem so new and exotic anymore (and since many people have stopped paying attention to it), the scene has become a lot smaller.
     
    It's true however (but that's more for the new vs old VK thread) that many people left the scene, because the music has changed and they don't pay any attention to newer releases. I am sure some of them still enjoy the old music they have come to like, but they don't care about any new releases or bands. I myself had stopped listening to VK between 2006 and 2007 (which was a rather short pause anyway). VK lost some fans, as it started to become different, but as you can see it also gained new ones. I guess we could discuss this as some kind of generational conflict (as many of the new fans are in the age we old ones were when we first discovered VK, but yet grew up with other music and have different tastes) in the other thread.
     
    Also finally: are music videos really that important anymore? I have the feeling that it's not only limited to VK, but the overall music scene. Music videos don't seem to have the same value as they did maybe 10 or 20 years ago, when MVs were broadcasted on MTV (when it was still mainly a music TV channel) and MVs were often produced with high budget. My mom used to own Michael Jackson's Thriller music video on VHS and it was the extended long edition with Making of. The VHS was probably around 2 or 3 hours. It was expensive, but she loved it and watched it many times. How often do we modern consumers watch a MV? Would we buy a MV with making of for 20-30€? I don't think so. Many people have stated they watch PVs and MVs one time on youtube and never again. We live in a world, where everything has started to become fast lived and is consumed like Junk Food. This is logical, because the WWW offers so much and in masses at a few clicks. Our consuming behaviour isn't the same, so I guess the aproach to MVs and PVs has changed drastically. I know a band which personally would like to make MVs for their music, but they don't do it, because they know people would watch them one time and it would be more expensive and profitable. And before they are forced to do a 0815 cheap low budget one they rather produce none.
  12. Like
    Ikna got a reaction from Nuclearnemo in Visual kei is dead! (at least on youtube)   
    Also another thread where we can discuss this whole "old VK is better/worse" thing (Gaz posted a link to another thread)
     
    The title of this thread is definitely misleading a bit. Also everyone else has said, what's to say and mentioned the shift in interests, copyright and so on. I want to add a bit of my perspective, mainly from my subjective experience with the Austrian and German fanbase, which is mostly based on real life experiences (with my rather tiny and small local VK fanbase) and what i have witnessed on several national and German Forums, Boards and Websites.
     
    I came in contact with VK in 2003 and 2004. I have heard of it even earlier in Anime Magazines, but didn't pay any attention to it. Back at this time it was difficult to get information on VK bands. Only if you have been to Japan yourself you would have come into contact with more obscure indies bands. The groups that were known over here were all the big groups, the ones signed to major labels or which were pretty popular and well established: Dir en grey, Malice Mizer, Buck-Tick, Luna Sea, Pierrot, L'arc~en~Ciel, Moi dix Mois and Gackt (technically not VK, but he was in Malice and so appealed to the european fans). My first real experience with VK was, when the distributor Gan-Shin was founded and started to release some VK CDs here. Mind you, they were still hard to get, at least in Austria. Only one store carried Dir en grey and Moi dix Mois' albums and so I bought them. The only reason why I knew about these bands was because of Manga magazines.
     
    I am sure there were several people in the early 00s who came to VK not through the Anime "Scene" but I'll say for the majority of the fanbase at this time this was the entrance. Let's say 90% of the German fanbase at least was compromised of Manga reading Weaboos, who threw around japanese words in their German sentences, because it was so cool and so on. VK appealed to them, because they already lived in a fantasy world and bubble, where everything is "kawaii" and where Japan was the garden Eden of the Earth, filled with hot crossdressing men. The Anime fandom was very big at the time, as we were still in the midst of the Anime and Manga boom, which started somewhere in the mid to late 90s. Everything japanese was considered "fresh", "new" and "exotic".
     
    Now more then 10 years have passed and surely the world isn't the same. Nowadays everything is much more accessible. You don't need to spend shitton of money and habe patience to be able to get your hands on a new CD of your favourite VK band. You can buy their CD now easily in Online Stores or just download them. The Anime and Manga boom is over too. Being a Weaboo was always frowned upon, but today it seems to have become an even heavier stigma. In the 00s young teens still could go away trying to appear unique and cool by dressing up as self proclaimed "Visus" (yeah, they really saw Visual kei as some kind of subculture…) and shout "people who criticize me just don't understand it!". But if you do this today, then you are considered highly immature, dumb and annoying.
     
    Of course most of those "Visus" grew out of it (and very fast). Almost no one of these people I knew (and have even seen in real life) sticked to it. Most of them moved on and became "normal". Others entered other subcultures in the course of the 00s (such as Scene and recently Hipster). A big majority of them don't even want to remember their old self, when they cosplayed as Kyo or Ruki daily (even to school) and probaböy washed their hair only once every 8 days (I am not joking. Many Visus' outfits and body hygiene were bad). I have to say that the current and modern fanbase isn't nearly as crazy as the old one. The cosplays and outfits have gotten better and I feel the amount of delusional fans has started to decrease.
     
    So simply put: because it was new and because the Anime/Manga community offered a quick and well guided portal to it, VK was very popular here between 2004 and 2008. It was still fresh and the many japanese oriented fansites and boards were often the only information sources – hence there was also a bit more of a sense of community. Many places were similiar in activity and interest as MH is now. People regulary chatted about what band X is doing, even if the topics were often arbitrary. When I look into the same forums today, there is almost no activity left. That surely gives you the impression as if the VK fan scene would be dead. But MH actually disproves it. I'd say that since VK has become "normalized" and doesn't seem so new and exotic anymore (and since many people have stopped paying attention to it), the scene has become a lot smaller.
     
    It's true however (but that's more for the new vs old VK thread) that many people left the scene, because the music has changed and they don't pay any attention to newer releases. I am sure some of them still enjoy the old music they have come to like, but they don't care about any new releases or bands. I myself had stopped listening to VK between 2006 and 2007 (which was a rather short pause anyway). VK lost some fans, as it started to become different, but as you can see it also gained new ones. I guess we could discuss this as some kind of generational conflict (as many of the new fans are in the age we old ones were when we first discovered VK, but yet grew up with other music and have different tastes) in the other thread.
     
    Also finally: are music videos really that important anymore? I have the feeling that it's not only limited to VK, but the overall music scene. Music videos don't seem to have the same value as they did maybe 10 or 20 years ago, when MVs were broadcasted on MTV (when it was still mainly a music TV channel) and MVs were often produced with high budget. My mom used to own Michael Jackson's Thriller music video on VHS and it was the extended long edition with Making of. The VHS was probably around 2 or 3 hours. It was expensive, but she loved it and watched it many times. How often do we modern consumers watch a MV? Would we buy a MV with making of for 20-30€? I don't think so. Many people have stated they watch PVs and MVs one time on youtube and never again. We live in a world, where everything has started to become fast lived and is consumed like Junk Food. This is logical, because the WWW offers so much and in masses at a few clicks. Our consuming behaviour isn't the same, so I guess the aproach to MVs and PVs has changed drastically. I know a band which personally would like to make MVs for their music, but they don't do it, because they know people would watch them one time and it would be more expensive and profitable. And before they are forced to do a 0815 cheap low budget one they rather produce none.
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    Ikna got a reaction from hiroki in Visual kei is dead! (at least on youtube)   
    Also another thread where we can discuss this whole "old VK is better/worse" thing (Gaz posted a link to another thread)
     
    The title of this thread is definitely misleading a bit. Also everyone else has said, what's to say and mentioned the shift in interests, copyright and so on. I want to add a bit of my perspective, mainly from my subjective experience with the Austrian and German fanbase, which is mostly based on real life experiences (with my rather tiny and small local VK fanbase) and what i have witnessed on several national and German Forums, Boards and Websites.
     
    I came in contact with VK in 2003 and 2004. I have heard of it even earlier in Anime Magazines, but didn't pay any attention to it. Back at this time it was difficult to get information on VK bands. Only if you have been to Japan yourself you would have come into contact with more obscure indies bands. The groups that were known over here were all the big groups, the ones signed to major labels or which were pretty popular and well established: Dir en grey, Malice Mizer, Buck-Tick, Luna Sea, Pierrot, L'arc~en~Ciel, Moi dix Mois and Gackt (technically not VK, but he was in Malice and so appealed to the european fans). My first real experience with VK was, when the distributor Gan-Shin was founded and started to release some VK CDs here. Mind you, they were still hard to get, at least in Austria. Only one store carried Dir en grey and Moi dix Mois' albums and so I bought them. The only reason why I knew about these bands was because of Manga magazines.
     
    I am sure there were several people in the early 00s who came to VK not through the Anime "Scene" but I'll say for the majority of the fanbase at this time this was the entrance. Let's say 90% of the German fanbase at least was compromised of Manga reading Weaboos, who threw around japanese words in their German sentences, because it was so cool and so on. VK appealed to them, because they already lived in a fantasy world and bubble, where everything is "kawaii" and where Japan was the garden Eden of the Earth, filled with hot crossdressing men. The Anime fandom was very big at the time, as we were still in the midst of the Anime and Manga boom, which started somewhere in the mid to late 90s. Everything japanese was considered "fresh", "new" and "exotic".
     
    Now more then 10 years have passed and surely the world isn't the same. Nowadays everything is much more accessible. You don't need to spend shitton of money and habe patience to be able to get your hands on a new CD of your favourite VK band. You can buy their CD now easily in Online Stores or just download them. The Anime and Manga boom is over too. Being a Weaboo was always frowned upon, but today it seems to have become an even heavier stigma. In the 00s young teens still could go away trying to appear unique and cool by dressing up as self proclaimed "Visus" (yeah, they really saw Visual kei as some kind of subculture…) and shout "people who criticize me just don't understand it!". But if you do this today, then you are considered highly immature, dumb and annoying.
     
    Of course most of those "Visus" grew out of it (and very fast). Almost no one of these people I knew (and have even seen in real life) sticked to it. Most of them moved on and became "normal". Others entered other subcultures in the course of the 00s (such as Scene and recently Hipster). A big majority of them don't even want to remember their old self, when they cosplayed as Kyo or Ruki daily (even to school) and probaböy washed their hair only once every 8 days (I am not joking. Many Visus' outfits and body hygiene were bad). I have to say that the current and modern fanbase isn't nearly as crazy as the old one. The cosplays and outfits have gotten better and I feel the amount of delusional fans has started to decrease.
     
    So simply put: because it was new and because the Anime/Manga community offered a quick and well guided portal to it, VK was very popular here between 2004 and 2008. It was still fresh and the many japanese oriented fansites and boards were often the only information sources – hence there was also a bit more of a sense of community. Many places were similiar in activity and interest as MH is now. People regulary chatted about what band X is doing, even if the topics were often arbitrary. When I look into the same forums today, there is almost no activity left. That surely gives you the impression as if the VK fan scene would be dead. But MH actually disproves it. I'd say that since VK has become "normalized" and doesn't seem so new and exotic anymore (and since many people have stopped paying attention to it), the scene has become a lot smaller.
     
    It's true however (but that's more for the new vs old VK thread) that many people left the scene, because the music has changed and they don't pay any attention to newer releases. I am sure some of them still enjoy the old music they have come to like, but they don't care about any new releases or bands. I myself had stopped listening to VK between 2006 and 2007 (which was a rather short pause anyway). VK lost some fans, as it started to become different, but as you can see it also gained new ones. I guess we could discuss this as some kind of generational conflict (as many of the new fans are in the age we old ones were when we first discovered VK, but yet grew up with other music and have different tastes) in the other thread.
     
    Also finally: are music videos really that important anymore? I have the feeling that it's not only limited to VK, but the overall music scene. Music videos don't seem to have the same value as they did maybe 10 or 20 years ago, when MVs were broadcasted on MTV (when it was still mainly a music TV channel) and MVs were often produced with high budget. My mom used to own Michael Jackson's Thriller music video on VHS and it was the extended long edition with Making of. The VHS was probably around 2 or 3 hours. It was expensive, but she loved it and watched it many times. How often do we modern consumers watch a MV? Would we buy a MV with making of for 20-30€? I don't think so. Many people have stated they watch PVs and MVs one time on youtube and never again. We live in a world, where everything has started to become fast lived and is consumed like Junk Food. This is logical, because the WWW offers so much and in masses at a few clicks. Our consuming behaviour isn't the same, so I guess the aproach to MVs and PVs has changed drastically. I know a band which personally would like to make MVs for their music, but they don't do it, because they know people would watch them one time and it would be more expensive and profitable. And before they are forced to do a 0815 cheap low budget one they rather produce none.
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    Ikna got a reaction from Champ213 in Visual kei is dead! (at least on youtube)   
    Also another thread where we can discuss this whole "old VK is better/worse" thing (Gaz posted a link to another thread)
     
    The title of this thread is definitely misleading a bit. Also everyone else has said, what's to say and mentioned the shift in interests, copyright and so on. I want to add a bit of my perspective, mainly from my subjective experience with the Austrian and German fanbase, which is mostly based on real life experiences (with my rather tiny and small local VK fanbase) and what i have witnessed on several national and German Forums, Boards and Websites.
     
    I came in contact with VK in 2003 and 2004. I have heard of it even earlier in Anime Magazines, but didn't pay any attention to it. Back at this time it was difficult to get information on VK bands. Only if you have been to Japan yourself you would have come into contact with more obscure indies bands. The groups that were known over here were all the big groups, the ones signed to major labels or which were pretty popular and well established: Dir en grey, Malice Mizer, Buck-Tick, Luna Sea, Pierrot, L'arc~en~Ciel, Moi dix Mois and Gackt (technically not VK, but he was in Malice and so appealed to the european fans). My first real experience with VK was, when the distributor Gan-Shin was founded and started to release some VK CDs here. Mind you, they were still hard to get, at least in Austria. Only one store carried Dir en grey and Moi dix Mois' albums and so I bought them. The only reason why I knew about these bands was because of Manga magazines.
     
    I am sure there were several people in the early 00s who came to VK not through the Anime "Scene" but I'll say for the majority of the fanbase at this time this was the entrance. Let's say 90% of the German fanbase at least was compromised of Manga reading Weaboos, who threw around japanese words in their German sentences, because it was so cool and so on. VK appealed to them, because they already lived in a fantasy world and bubble, where everything is "kawaii" and where Japan was the garden Eden of the Earth, filled with hot crossdressing men. The Anime fandom was very big at the time, as we were still in the midst of the Anime and Manga boom, which started somewhere in the mid to late 90s. Everything japanese was considered "fresh", "new" and "exotic".
     
    Now more then 10 years have passed and surely the world isn't the same. Nowadays everything is much more accessible. You don't need to spend shitton of money and habe patience to be able to get your hands on a new CD of your favourite VK band. You can buy their CD now easily in Online Stores or just download them. The Anime and Manga boom is over too. Being a Weaboo was always frowned upon, but today it seems to have become an even heavier stigma. In the 00s young teens still could go away trying to appear unique and cool by dressing up as self proclaimed "Visus" (yeah, they really saw Visual kei as some kind of subculture…) and shout "people who criticize me just don't understand it!". But if you do this today, then you are considered highly immature, dumb and annoying.
     
    Of course most of those "Visus" grew out of it (and very fast). Almost no one of these people I knew (and have even seen in real life) sticked to it. Most of them moved on and became "normal". Others entered other subcultures in the course of the 00s (such as Scene and recently Hipster). A big majority of them don't even want to remember their old self, when they cosplayed as Kyo or Ruki daily (even to school) and probaböy washed their hair only once every 8 days (I am not joking. Many Visus' outfits and body hygiene were bad). I have to say that the current and modern fanbase isn't nearly as crazy as the old one. The cosplays and outfits have gotten better and I feel the amount of delusional fans has started to decrease.
     
    So simply put: because it was new and because the Anime/Manga community offered a quick and well guided portal to it, VK was very popular here between 2004 and 2008. It was still fresh and the many japanese oriented fansites and boards were often the only information sources – hence there was also a bit more of a sense of community. Many places were similiar in activity and interest as MH is now. People regulary chatted about what band X is doing, even if the topics were often arbitrary. When I look into the same forums today, there is almost no activity left. That surely gives you the impression as if the VK fan scene would be dead. But MH actually disproves it. I'd say that since VK has become "normalized" and doesn't seem so new and exotic anymore (and since many people have stopped paying attention to it), the scene has become a lot smaller.
     
    It's true however (but that's more for the new vs old VK thread) that many people left the scene, because the music has changed and they don't pay any attention to newer releases. I am sure some of them still enjoy the old music they have come to like, but they don't care about any new releases or bands. I myself had stopped listening to VK between 2006 and 2007 (which was a rather short pause anyway). VK lost some fans, as it started to become different, but as you can see it also gained new ones. I guess we could discuss this as some kind of generational conflict (as many of the new fans are in the age we old ones were when we first discovered VK, but yet grew up with other music and have different tastes) in the other thread.
     
    Also finally: are music videos really that important anymore? I have the feeling that it's not only limited to VK, but the overall music scene. Music videos don't seem to have the same value as they did maybe 10 or 20 years ago, when MVs were broadcasted on MTV (when it was still mainly a music TV channel) and MVs were often produced with high budget. My mom used to own Michael Jackson's Thriller music video on VHS and it was the extended long edition with Making of. The VHS was probably around 2 or 3 hours. It was expensive, but she loved it and watched it many times. How often do we modern consumers watch a MV? Would we buy a MV with making of for 20-30€? I don't think so. Many people have stated they watch PVs and MVs one time on youtube and never again. We live in a world, where everything has started to become fast lived and is consumed like Junk Food. This is logical, because the WWW offers so much and in masses at a few clicks. Our consuming behaviour isn't the same, so I guess the aproach to MVs and PVs has changed drastically. I know a band which personally would like to make MVs for their music, but they don't do it, because they know people would watch them one time and it would be more expensive and profitable. And before they are forced to do a 0815 cheap low budget one they rather produce none.
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    Ikna got a reaction from hyura in AvelCain   
    I've been listening to them more lately. At the beginning I couldn't stand Karma's voice either, but it started to grow on me. His voice sure has some similarity with Yuuki's, but Karma's singing style is still very different. I wouldn't call the band old school though, as they remind me more of the typical 2002 upwards Nagoya kei stuff. Except we tag everything from before 2007 as old school now. 2004-2006 was the time I was getting into VK, so AvelCain's sound is pretty familiar for me and I really like it. (I blame the Nostalgia factor)
     
    They find a good balance between heavyness, aggressiveness, melody and gloom. I tend to like their fucked up crazy and chaotic songs, i really enjoy when Karma's blabbering perverse things, laughs and screams. You know already, I am the kind of person who likes the batshit insane side of VK. So their band concept is pretty appealing too. It made me laugh however, when some people on tumblr shit their pants because Karma sings about slitting his wrists. Sure, he does some questionable stuff (such as cutting his wrists and showing pics online), but well… I guess some other artists perfomances must be the apocalypse (Throbbing gristle, anyone?). So yeah, a pretty fine and interesting band.
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    Ikna reacted to relentless in A Riot Last Night In St.Louis.   
    What happened in Ferguson last night was a disgrace on all sides involved. It was pathetic. It was horrendous. It was grotesque. It was fucking stupid.
     
     
    There was an instance where a teen (black teen as this is no doubt, the focus of the entire issue) was shot by a cop, and protests began.
     
     
    WHAT happened -- We do not know as there are several conflicting reports (one side says Brown was shot with his hands up, the other said the kid made a grab for an officer's gun with a friend before trying to run away).
     
     
    HOW did it happen -- We do not know as there are several conflicting reports (see above)
     
     
     
    With that in mind, this group (there's no beating around the bush, all Black) were angered and sought justice for what they believed happened -- so they began a peaceful protest at the sight of the shooting. Soon after, officers (some with K-9 units) entered the scene as is customary of police to do in the states. Oddly enough, though there is the freedom of speech, there are pathways you have to go through in the legal system to get approval for a rally / demonstration (were there? Not to the best of my knowledge). It just so happens that due to a larger group gathering at the scene, more officers had to be called in. With the increased violence against police, you can understand why lots of cops show up even when apprehending just one subject, let alone an entire gathering of people. 
     
    Soon after police were present, SOMETHING happened.
     
     
    WHAT happened -- We don't know as there are conflicting reports (see above)
     
     
     
    What happened after, what we do know, gets worse. An officer beaten outside of a Taco Bell, several stores (numbered ~14) were broken into, vandalized (one set on fire), and robbed for all of their merchandise. Multiple gun shots, helicopters shot at, rocks thrown at police, etc. Afterwards, these groups kept moving through Ferguson with just a few reports of break ins happening shortly after the mob moved out at around 3 AM.
     
     
     
     
    This demonstration, originally built as a peaceful protest demanding justice for the kid shot, turned into a free-for-all "take everything you can" (as quoted from one member of the mob, female) that had nothing to do with Police, and had nothing to do with the kid that was shot. This becomes even more clear when a large group of the "protesters" (i.e. mob) were people coming out of town well after the riot broke out.
     
     
     
     
     
    So what does this all mean?
     
     
     
    Is this a "revolution"? Is this Blacks fighting for equality? Is this "The Man" stepping on minorities and preventing them from living free? The short answer, to all of those, is no.
     
     
     
     
    "Is this a revolution?" - The ignorant (yes, ignorant) seem to think so. One look on Twitter (#ferguson) reveals a whole shit load of justification for the incredibly stupid acts that transpired last night. "We are standing up for ourselves", "Only violence can end oppression", (various quotes from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.), etc. The problem though, IS WHAT PART OF A FUCKING REVOLUTION INVOLVES BREAKING INTO A LOCALLY-OWNED RIM SHOP, AND LOOTING 1 SINGLE 22" RIM FOR YOURSELF? AND IN THE PROCESS, DESTROYING ALL PROPERTY IN SAID STORE JUST TO GET THE MERCHANDISE? With the family of Mike Brown speaking out AGAINST the riots, this paints a different picture. This wasn't a "revolution", this was a mob that got out of control and decided to take matters into their own hands.
     
     
    "Blacks fighting for equality" - This tends to happen when a black teen is shot, or when any member of the Black community is at the mercy of a police force. Though institutionalized racism is still very much a thing, this matter is completely unrelated. This has nothing to do with workplace discrimination, or discrimination in education, or in the government offices. This has to do with a teen that was shot in an altercation with police (whatever the instance was). It pisses me off that people are so quick to make a racial divide in a matter when it isn't called for. People wanted answers to what happened. But instead of sticking around and asking the serious questions, they robbed convenience stores and walked out with handfuls of liquor and food.
     
     
    "The Man" - This is the most intriguing part, and one that I feel has SOME merit, even when as a whole it doesn't. This very well could be an instance where a cop was quick to gun a kid down, and IF THIS WAS THE CASE, then the peaceful protestors in Ferguson are absolutely right to want answers. An investigation (regardless) should be done, and those accountable should be held accountable. BUT, what if the police reports are true? What if (after FBI investigation and third-party investigation has finished) Mike Brown DID make a move for an officer's gun? Then what does that make of the actions of those involved (remember: many rioters were coming from out of town, NOT rioting because they were upset at police, though some were).
     
     
    And don't even get me started on this MLK bullshit. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a man that taught to avoid doing EXACTLY THIS. It makes me sick that people are now hiding behind his quotes to reason something he would never have stood for in the first place.
     
     
     
     
    What transpired the other evening was not a revolution. it wasn't right, it wasn't justified, and it sure as hell was not going to help the cause taken up by the peaceful protesters.
     
     
     
    What this did. What the rioters HOPED it would do, will have the opposite effect. People will not turn to the cause of what happened in Ferguson, of anarchy, of robbing CHICKEN PLACES, of robbing SPORTING GOODS STORES, and say "THAT IS AN IDEAL I STRIVE FOR" No. Whenever a group of people resort to barbarism, they instantly lose any credibility to their cause when there are outlets to access to bring those accountable to justice.
     
     
    What the Rioters (they are NOT protestors) did last night was fucking pathetic.
     
     
     
     
    EDIT: and perhaps the most fascinating point of all. Police did not shoot and kill one Rioter. If this was truly a "revolution" rising up against oppression, those cops would not have hesitated to shoot. Yet they didn't. Not once. Suspects were taken into custody.
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    Ikna reacted to Champ213 in KISAKI conspiracy? Strange things I noticed related to Kisaki's old bands Levia and LAYBIAL   
    But he was already pretty clear about it. It's not a cover, it's the same recordings he said.
     
     
    Normally I would suspect that some random seller on Yahoo wanted to make some money and just faked the tape. But Kisaki's official site confirms the cover and tracklist and it's pretty weird in itself that the tracklist is 2/3 of the Nude-of-J tape. Which is another thing, the Nude-of-J tape has 3 tracks, so it's not just that the tape somehow ended up in the wrong case, someone must have gone through the trouble to copy over those 2 songs specifically.
     
     
    Aaaaand there's more. I recently got the mp3s for another purported early Kisaki band, SHEY≠DE, via trade. It was later brought to my attention that they were probably fake. Fake files can happen in trades, although my source was usually a very realible one. One of the tapes I got is also on Kisaki's homepage, this one:
     
    http://kisaki-official.syncl.jp/?p=shop&id=530032&af=
     
    So, I showed my files to another japanese guy I know who's very knowledgable about old vk stuff, he said the tape I got was actually by a band called INSANITY.
     
    And here's where it gets interesting.
     
    Upon googling a bit I found this old auction where somebody was selling that old INSANITY tape: http://aucview.aucfan.com/yahoo/w80588066/
     
    The tracklist is slightly different, but look at the cover! It's the same as on Kisakis page, except that one is red!
     
     
    For comparison:
     

    瑠璃の雫 by SHEY≠DE
     
    1. insanity
    2. XXXXX
    3. 夢遊病者
     
     

    Unnamed tape by INSANITY
     
    1. 恋模様
    2. Desert Labyrinth
    3. 瑠璃の雫
     
    The first song on the SHEY≠DE tape has been altered with the name of the actual band (!), and the second one has been replaced with xxxxx (!!). The third song of the INSANITY tape was used as title for the SHEY≠DE tape (!!!). Now that's creative! But hey, at least he came up with a COMPLETLY NEW fake name for the 3rd song this time. And he re-colored the cover in Photoshop. That's gotta be worth something, right?
     
    The INSANITY tape was sold for 1000 Yen btw. The seller could have asked for a lot more for a SHEY≠DE tape, so there's no reason whatsoever for him to fake a SHEY≠DE tape into an INSANITY tape.
     
     
    At first I thought I was spoofed by a tricky trader. But there seems to be more to it. So after the dubious LAYBIAL and Levia tapes.... make it three.
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    Ikna reacted to hyura in Madeth gray'll kanji/romaji/translation; tragedy in 6 acts   
    黒装束ノ調ベ
    Kuroshouzoku no shirabe
    Melody dressed in black

    残虐を望む踊り子よ 理想の死に場所で首を吊れ
    Zangyaku wo nozomu odoriko yo
    Hey danseuse, since you want torture
    Risou no shinibasho de kubi wo tsure
    Look for the best place to die and hang yourself
    腐りゆくマネキンに見写れば『黒い呪縛』が・・・
    Kusari yuku manekin ni miutsureba "kuroi jubaku" ga...
    When the decaying mannequin's view captures me this "black curse" is...
     
    lalalalalala...

    エグリ出した眼球が痛い
    Eguri dashita gankyuu ga itai
    Your gouged eyesockets hurt

    飛び散る肉片を拾い集め
    Tobichiru nikuhen wo hiroi atsume
    Gather the scattered shreds of flesh

    願い続けた十字架の前
    Negai tsuzuketa juujika no mae
    I kept praying before the cross

    『盲目な逆子の血が欲しい・・・』
    "Moumoku na sakago no chi ga hoshii..."
    "I ache for the blood of that blind breech birth..."

    黒い夢 無情な刻 せせら笑うマリアと影に
    Kuroi yume
    Black dream
    Mujou na toki
    Heartless hour
    Sesera warau maria to kage ni
    With a scornfully laughing Maria in the shadows

    永久に 閉ざした 孤独の中で
    Eikyuu ni
    Eternally
    Tozashita
    Confined
    Kodoku no naka de
    In loneliness
     
    XXX

    悲しみに狂う踊り子は 醜く果てる精神異常者
    Kanashimi ni kuruu odoriko ha
    A danseuse gone insane in grief
    Minikuku hateru seishin ijou sha
    An unsightly perishing psycho

    切り取られ… さらけだした…
    Kiri torare...
    Mutilated...
    Sarake dashita...
    Denuded...
    剥き出しの愛し×××
    Muki dashi no aishi xxx
    Exposing her sweet xxx
     
    lalalalalala...

    鮮血を浴びる干からびた体
    Senketsu wo abiru hikarabita karada
    Showering my parched body in fresh blood

    憐れむ罪人達の嘆き
    Awaremu tsumibitotachi no nageki
    The grieving sinner's lamentations

    辿り着いた理想郷の果て
    Tadori tsuita risoukyou no hate
    The end of utopia we struggled so hard to reach

    黒装束をまとう愛しい人よ
    Kuroshouzoku wo matou itoshii hito yo
    My darling dressed in black

    『不協』奏でる『賛美歌』を歌いなさい
    "Fukyou" kanaderu "sanbika" wo utai nasai
    Sing to me the "jarringly"-played "hymn"

    黒い夢 無情な刻 せせら笑うマリアと影に
    Kuroi yume
    Black dream
    Mujou na toki
    Heartless hour
    Sesera warau maria to kage ni
    With a scornfully laughing Maria in the shadows

    道化師に 導かれ 死臭漂う…
    Doukeshi ni
    Led by
    Michibikare
    The pierrot
    Shishuu tadayou
    Smell of corpses is drifting along

    『これが理想郷なのか…』
    "Kore ga risoukyou na no ka..."
    "So this is utopia...?"

    割れる月 踊る首 逃げまどう子供達の姿
    Wareru tsuki
    Bursting moon
    Odoru kubi
    Dancing neck
    Nigemadou kodomotachi no sugata
    The figures of children running about to escape

    鳴り止まない 鐘の音に 終末の情景を描いた
    Nari yamanai
    Incessantly ringing
    Kane no oto ni
    The sound of chimes
    Shuumatsu no joukei wo egaita
    They painted a picture of the end of the world
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    私の中で消えゆく空よ
    Watashi no naka de kie yuku sora e
    To the sky, vanishing inside of me
    今は何も信じられず
    Ima wa nani mo shinjirarezu
    Now that I can't believe in anything anymore
    一人眠りたい
    Hitori nemuritai
    I want to sleep alone
    刹那すぎる悲劇の物語は
    Setsunasugiru higeki no monogatari wa
    The tale of an unbearibly painful disaster
    冷たい雨に消えていく
    Fades away in the cold rain
    Tsumetai ame ni kieteyuku
    いつまでも貴女だけを愛しているから…
    Itsumademo anata dake o aishiteiru kara
    Because I love only you, forever...
    そして僕も貴女の
    Soshite boku mo anata no
    Eventually I'll come
    側へ…
    Soba e...
    By your side...
     
    憂鬱な目覚めに 鏡を見つめれば
    Yuutsu na mezame ni
    When I wake up depressed
    Kagami o mitsumereba
    And look into the mirror
    忘れたい事実が 無情に映し出される
    Wasuretai jijitsu wa
    I see the reality I wanted to forget
    Mujou ni utsushi dasareru
    Heartlessly reflected

    悲しみに抱かれて 僕は一人孤独に
    Kanashimi ni idakareta
    While I was, embraced by sorrow,
    Boku wa hitori kodoku ni
    By myself and
    脅えながら 君だけを凝視めていた
    Obienagara
    Afraid of loneliness
    Kimi dake o mitsumeteita
    I gazed at only you


    造花の花は 哀しい物語に咲くでしょう
    Zouka no hanabira wa
    The blossoms of artificial flowers
    Kanashii monogatari ni saku deshou
    May bloom in sad fairytales
    その花はきっと貴女の死顔にも似て
    Sono hana wa kitto anata no shigao ni mo nite
    And I'm sure those blossoms resemble your dead face

    忘れられない夜に 冷酷な貴女が
    Wasurerarenai yoru ni
    In that night that I can't forget
    Reikokuna anata ga
    When I was stained
    最後に見せた綺麗な毒色の嘘に染まりゆけば
    Saigo ni miseta kireina dokushoku no uso ni somari yukeba
    By the beautiful poisoncoloured lie you coldheartedly revealed in the end

    私の中で消えゆく空よ
    Watashi no naka de kie yuku sora e
    To the sky, vanishing inside of me
    今は何も信じられず
    Ima wa nani mo shinjirarezu
    Now that I can't believe in anything anymore
    一人眠りたい
    Hitori nemuritai
    I want to sleep alone

    切なすぎる二人の終りは
    Setsunasugiru futari no owari wa
    Our unbearibly painful end
    冷たい雨に消えてゆく
    Tsumetai ame ni kieteyuku
    Fades away in the cold rain

    この夢が醒めないうちに 貴女の幻と
    Kono yume ga samenai uchi ni
    As long as I don't wake up from this dream
    Anata no maboroshi to
    I want to be kissing
    永遠に接吻けていたい
    Towa ni toshizuketeitai
    This illusion of you forever

    悲しみに抱かれて 僕は一人孤独に
    Kanashimi ni idakareta
    While I am, embraced by sorrow,
    Boku wa hitori kodoku ni
    By myself and
    脅えながら 君だけを凝視めていた
    Obienagara
    Afraid of loneliness
    Kimi dake o mitsumeteitai
    I only want to gaze at you

    愛しすぎる貴女の姿を思い出せば
    Itoshii sugiru anata no sugata o omoidaseba
    When I recall your unbearibly dear figure

    なぜか涙は止まらず
    Naze ka namida wa tomarazu
    Somehow my tears won't stop
    悲しすぎる貴女の終わりは、
    Kanashi sugiru anata no owari wa
    And your unbearibly sad end
    冷たい雨に消えてゆく
    Tsumetai ame ni kieteyuku
    Fades away in the cold rain

    そしてまた朝が来ればあの憂鬱が
    Soshite mata asa ga kureba ano yuutsu ga
    And then, when another morning comes I guess
    僕を悩ませるんだろう
    Boku o nayamaseru'ndarou
    I'll suffer from depression again

    いつまでも君の為に唄うよ
    Itsumademo kimi no tame ni utau yo
    Eternally I will be singing for you
    流した涙の数だけ幸せに……なろう
    Nagashita namida no kazu dake shiawase ni... narou
    I'll find peace just by the number of tears I shed...
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    白昼夢の惨劇
    Hakuchuumu no sangeki
    Daydream tragedy


    「絶望が生み出した   惨劇の悪夢
    「Zetsubou ga umidashita
    "Despair made me dream
    Sangeki no akumu
    Of a tragedy
       真昼に見た黒い太陽は,   重くのしかかる非哀情」
    Mahiru ni mita kuroi taiyou wa
    The black sun I saw in midday was
    Omoku no shika karu hiaijou」
    Feigned sadness weighing heavily on me"

    狂い始めた知的生命体 憂鬱の陰に隠れて時を待つ
    Kurui hajimeta chiteki seimei
    I lost control over my intelligent mind
    Yuuutsu no kage kakurete toki o matsu
    Waiting for the right moment, hidden in the shadow of depression
    一握りの天才が作り上げた 破滅のシナリオ
    Hitonigiri no tensai wa tsukuri ageta
    A handful of prodigies could enact
    Hametsu no shinario
    This scenario of destruction

    暗い空の下  運命の時は迫り
    Kurai sora no shita
    Under a dark sky
    Unmei no toki wa semari
    The moment of destiny drew near
    なにも知らない君は幸せそうで...
    Nani mo shiranai kimi wa totemo shiawase sou de
    And you, unaware, seemed so happy...

    時は止まり 黒い空が
    Toki ga tomari  
    Time stood still
    Kuroi sora ga
    The black sky had
    無情に 産み落とした
    Mujou ni  
    Coldly
    Umi otoshita
    Given birth to
    惨劇と 黒い太陽
    Sangeki to
    This tragedy and
    Kuroi taiyou
    A black sun that
    一瞬にして“死”の情景を描いた
    Isshou ni shite "shi" no joukei o egaku
    For a second, depicted the spectacle of "death"

    黒い太陽が君を溶かし 
    Kuroi taiyou ga kimi o tokashi
    The black sun was melting you
    奇形な肉の塊と姿を変えた
    Kikei na niku no katamari to sugata o kaete
    And you turned into a deformed lump of flesh

    屍の海の中で何度も君の名を呼び続けたけど
    Shikabane no umi no naka de nandomo kimi o yobu kedo
    In a sea of dead bodies I kept calling your name over and over and yet
    二度と目を覚まさず一筋の涙が流れた
    Nido to me o samasazu hitosuji no namida ga nagarete
    A trickle of tears ran down from those eyes you'd never open again

    僕は、君の涙を嘗め 最後の戯れをした夜
    Boku wa,
    I,
    Kimi no namida o name
    Tasted your tears
    Saigo no tawamure o shita ato
    That night after playing with you for the last time
    君を箱に詰め「僕も逝くよ…」と空を眺めた
    Kimi o hako ni tsume
    I packed you into a box,
     「Boku mo yuku yo...」
    Saying "I will leave, too..."
    To sora o nagamete
    I stared into the sky

    黒い太陽が僕を溶かし・・・
    Kuroi taiyou ga boku o tokashi…
    The black sun will melt me...

    「でも僕は すぐに悲しくなんかなくなった
    「Demo boku wa
    "But immediately
    Sugu ni kanashiku nanka nakunatta
    My sadness was gone somehow
    ずっと君は一緒だから・・・
    Zutto kimi wa issho dakara...
    Because you're always with me...
    ずっと君は生きているから・・・
    Zutto kimi wa ikiteiru kara...
    Because you'll always live on...
    ずっと君は僕を見つめているから・・・
    Zutto kimi wa boku o mitsumeteiru kara...
    Because you're always watching over me...
    僕の大好きだった君の目玉を
    Boku no daisuki datta kimi no medama o
    Your eyes that I loved so much
    僕の大好きだった君の眼球を
    Boku no daisuki datta kimi no gankyuu o
    Your eyeballs that I loved so much
    ずっと僕は・・・
    Zutto boku wa...
    I have always...
    ずっと君は・・・
    Zutto kimi wa...
    You were always...
    ずっと君は僕を見つめていた
    Zutto kimi wa boku o mitsumeteita
    You were always watching over me
    ずっと君は僕を凝視めていた」
    Zutto kimi wa boku o gyoushimeteita」
    You were always staring at me"

    「ずっと君と一緒だから・・・
    「Zutto kimi to issho dakara...
    "Because I'm always with you...
    ずっと君は生きているから・・・
    Zutto kimi wa ikiteiru kara...
    Because you'll always live on...
    ホルマリン漬けにしてあげたから 僕は大好きな君の瞳を
    Horumarin zuke ni shite ageta kara
    Because I preserved them in formalin
    Boku wa daisukina kimi no hitomi o
    Your eyes that I love so much
    小さな瓶の中にホルマリン漬けにして ずっと今でも愛している」
    Chiisana bin no naka ni horumarin zuke ni shite
    In a small bottle, preserved in formalin
    Zutto imademo aishiteiru」
    Always, even now I still love them"

    君が僕に残していった  一つの小さな生命を
    Kimi ga boku ni nokoshiteitta
    You left them for me
    Hitotsu no chiisana inochi o
    A tiny piece of life
    瓦礫の海の中でそっと君から取り出して
    Gareki no umi no naka de sotto kimi kara toridashite
    In the sea of wreckage I gently salvaged them from you

    僕は君の生まれ変わった  この小さな少女に
    Boku wa kimi no umarekawatta
    Your reincarnation
    Kono chiisana shoujo ni
    This little girl
    君と同じ名前を名付け、ずっと愛し続けた
    Kimi to onaji namae o nazuke, zutto aishi tsuzuketa...
    I gave her your name and kept loving her forever...

    やがて時は過ぎ君と同じ歳になった少女を…
    Yagate toki wa sugi kimi to onaji sai ni natta shoujo o
    Time passed and soon she was your age...
    「少女の目玉をエグリ出し」
    「Sono shoujo no medama o eguri dashi」
    "I tore that girl's eyes out"
    君の眼球を植え付けずっと愛し続けた
    Kimi no gangyuu o ue tsuke zutto aishi tsuzuketa...
    I grafted your eyeballs into the empty sockets and kept loving you forever...
     
    -------
     
     
    Please note that while the romaji (=sung version) always differs a little from the original in Hisuis lyrics, they do so especially in this one.
    The lyrics are in past tense but a big part of them is sung in present tense or no tense at all, many words are simply omitted.
    The two middle parts (in quotation marks) are not printed in the booklet, but taken from the 白昼夢の惨劇 live limited single's case. (One version had the lyrics, the other one the middle parts)
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    血染めの喜劇
    chizome no kigeki
    Bloodstained Comedy

    鏡を見つめれば死の輪郭を映す
    Kagami wo mitsumereba shi no rinkaku wo utsusu
    If I look into the mirror I see death's silhouette

    赤く染めた血染めの未来で
    akaku someta chizome no mirai de
    In a future that's dyed red in blood

    悲鳴に似た産声を上げ
    himei ni nita ubugoe wo age
    Emitting our first cry, as if screaming for help

    奇形な僕と未熟な君が存在した
    kikei na boku to mijukuna kimi ga sonzai shita
    There we were, me, misshapen and you, premature

    十字架に吊るされた半狂乱の姿
    juujika ni tsurusareta hankyouran no sugata
    The half-crazed figure hanging on a cross

    蘇る罪の重さに耐え切れず…
    yomigaeru tsumi no omosa ni tae kirezu
    Unable to carry the weight of the resurrected sin

    気が付けば幻覚に生きる
    ki ga tsukeba genkaku ni ikiru
    If she regains consciousnes, she'll live an illusion

    幼きして「あの世近く感じた」
    osanaki shite "ano yo chikaku kanjita"
    So childish, "I sensed the netherworld so close"


    血染めた喜び殺めた悲しみを置き去りに
    chizometa yorukobi ayameta kanashimi wo okizari ni
    Bloodstained joy, murdered sorrow, leaving it all behind

    惨殺の快楽を恐怖に閉じ込めれば
    zansatsu no kairaku wo kyoufu ni tojikomereba
    If I shut up my lust to slaughter with fear

    震えた体抱き締めきれず笑えてしまう
    furueta karada dakishime kirezu waraete shimau
    Unable to bear your trembling body's embrace I'll start to laugh

    奇形児と未熟児の戯れ
    kikeiji to mijuku ji no zare
    A deformed child and a premature baby's play
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    Ikna reacted to hyura in Madeth gray'll kanji/romaji/translation; tragedy in 6 acts   
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    オペラ座の悲劇
    Operaza no higeki
    Disaster at the opera house


    深く錆び付いた夜の中で 暗く悲しい物語を演じる
    Fukaku sabi tsuita yoru no naka de
    In the middle of a night deeply covered in rust
    Kuraku kanashii monogatari wo enjiru
    I'll perform this dark sad story
    醜い顔を仮面で隠し 誰も邪魔をさせない僕の恋だから
    Minikui kao wo kamen de kakushi
    My ugly face hidden behind a mask
    Dare mo jama wo sasenai boku no koi dakara
    I won't allow anyone to disturb me for this is my love

    華やかな舞台の幕は閉ざされ
    Hanayakana butai no maku wa tozasare
    As the gorgeous stage was closed
    美しい死骸に僕は魅せられた
    Utsukushii shigai ni boku wa miserareta
    I was seduced by your beautiful corpse
    何も見させない僕以外は
    I won't let you see anything but me*
    仮面を抜き捨て狂いだせば
    Kamen wo nuki sute kurui daseba
    If I pull down my mask and let the madness show
    仮面を外した顔を見た君が そして
    You'll see my unmasked face*
    And then *
    悲劇の幕は今開かれる
    Higeki no maku wa ima hirakareru
    The disaster has lifted it's curtain now

    貴女の見る物すべて 僕が奪いそして君の声
    Anata no miru mono subete
    Everything you see
    Boku ga ubai soshite kimi no koe
    I will take from you and then your voice
    姿を腐乱させた美少女と共に 深い闇へ墜ちて逝く
    Sugata wo kaeta shoujo to tomo ni
    Together with a beautiful girl whose figure I allowed to decay
    Fukai yami e ochite iku
    I'm falling into deep darkness

    我が命 短命故に 君を愛さなければ良かった
    Waga inochi
    For this life
    Tanmei yue ni
    Is so short
    Kimi wo aisanakereba yokatta ne
    I had better not loved you

    腐蝕の闇に君の死骸が
    Fushoku no yami ni kimi no shigai ga
    Your corpse in the corroding dark
    素敵に腐りゆく醜さに愛を
    Suteki ni kusari yuku minikusa ni ai wo
    Decaying beautifully, my love for this ugliness
    歪んだ愛が憎しみを求め
    Yuganda ai ga nikushimi wo motome
    A distorted love, demanding hatred
    死劇の幕は今開かれる
    Shigeki no maku wa ima hirakareru
    The death play has lifted it's curtain now

    貴女の醜く腐る 血染めの涙の仮面に接吻を
    Anata no miniku kusaru
    A kiss from your ugly rotten mask**
    Chizome no namida no kamen ni kuchizuke o
    Stained with bloody tears
    私の命滅び逝こうとも 毒の顔を愛し続けるでしょう
    Watashi no inochi horobikou to mo
    Although my life may perish
    Doku no kao wo aishi tsuzukeyou
    I guess I'll love that poisoned face forever

    貴女の見る物すべて 僕が奪いそして君の声
    Anata no miru mono subete
    Everything you see
    Boku ga ubai soshite kimi no koe
    I will take from you and then your voice
    姿を腐乱させた美少女と共に 深い闇へ墜ちて逝く
    Sugata wo kaeta shoujo to tomo ni
    Together with a beautiful girl whose figure I allowed to decay
    Fukai yami e ochite iku
    I'm falling into deep darkness

    気違いな僕を誰か 「はやく幕が降りる前に殺して」
    Kichigaina boku wo dare ka
    This freak I've become, someone please
    "hayaku maku ga oriru mae ni koroshite"
    "Kill me quickly before the curtain drops"
    悲劇の中で唄う 貴女へ最後に贈る歌劇
    Higeki no naka de utau
    Within this tragedy I'm singing
    Anata e saigo ni okuru kageki
    An opera as my last gift to you


    狂気に満ちた殺人劇は 静かに 今 幕を降ろす
    Kyouki ni michita satsujin geki wa
    This murder play abound in madness
    Shizuka ni
    Is now
    Ima
    Quietly
    Maku wo orosu
    Closing the curtain
    呪われた仮面舞踏会は血で血を償い 又 惨劇を繰り返す
    Norowareta kamen butoukai wa chi de chi wo tsugunai
    In this cursed masquerade-ball blood is redeemed with blood
    Mata
    And
    Sangeki wo kurikaesu
    The tragedy repeats itself

    姿を変えた美少女を捜して…
    Look for the beautiful girl whose figure had changed...*

    ----
    *these lines are not sung
    **these paragraphs are written from the girls perspective
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    Ikna reacted to hyura in Madeth gray'll kanji/romaji/translation; tragedy in 6 acts   
    十字架の結末・・・
    Jūjika no ketsumatsu...
    The end of the cross...


    三番目の十字架が結末を迎えたなら…
    Sanban-me no jūjika ga ketsumatsu o mukaetanara…
    When the third cross came to its end...
    その結末を君が望んでも
    Sono ketsumatsu o kimi ga nozondemo
    Although you may have longed for that end
    十字架は何も何も
    Jūjika wa nani mo nani mo
    The cross wishes for nothing
    望まない
    Nozomanai
    Nothing
    その結末は永遠に…
    Sono ketsumatsu wa eien ni…
    That end will eternally...
    この十字架は永遠に…
    Kono jūjika wa eien ni…
    This cross will eternally...
    十字架は君を忘れない
    Jūjika wa kimi o wasurenai
    The cross won't forget you


    ---
    This text is printed on the backcover of their first cd "十字架の結末・・・" in memory of guitarist hizumi who died shortly after completing the recording.

     
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    Ikna reacted to hyura in Madeth gray'll kanji/romaji/translation; tragedy in 6 acts   
    廃人狂イ人形
    Haijin kurui ningyō
    Mad cripple puppet


    『生まれながら4の業を持つ彼は、
    “Umare nagara 4 no gō o motsu kare wa,
    He who bore the fate of death* by birth had,
    神を断絶したため、
    Kami o danzetsu shita tame,
    In order to extinguish god,
    皮膚を剥がされ、
    Hifu o hagasare,
    His skin flayed,
    足枷をつけられて、
    Ashikase o tsukerarete,
    Strings attached to his limbs,
    まるで独楽のように、
    Marude koma no yō ni,
    And was, just like a spinning top,
    愛する人の前を引きずりまわされました。
    Aisuru hito no mae o hikizuri mawasaremashita.
    Forcefully dragged around in front of the person he loved.
    その痛みに快楽を憶えた彼は、
    Sono itami ni kairaku o oboeta kare wa,
    He who felt pleasure from that pain,
    自らの足枷で神を吊し上げ、
    Mizukara no ashikase de kami o tsurushiage,
    Used his own strings to hang god,
    そして糸の切れた操綉人形は、
    Soshite ito no kireta ayatsuri ningyō wa,
    And the marionette* that eventually cut off it's threads
    今日も貴女を求め、
    Kyō mo anata o motome,
    Was searching for you today, too,
    街を彷徨い続けました。』
    Machi o urotsui tsuzukemashita. ”
    Continuing to wander the streets..."


    明日眠る前にこの話を思い出したら、
    Ashita nemuru mae ni kono hanashi o omoidashitara,
    Tomorrow when you recall this story before going to bed,
    そっと後ろを振り向いてxxxxxxx
    Sotto ushiro o furimuite xxxxxxx
    Quietly turn to look behind you xxxxxxx
    xxxxxxxxxxxしなければ、xxxxxxxxxx
    xxxxxxxxxxx shinakereba, xxxxxxxxxx
    xxxxxxxxxxx If you don't, xxxxxxxxxx
    xxxx首を吊って笑ってるでしょう。
    xxxx kubi o tsutte waratteru deshou.
    xxxx will hang you and laugh, I think.

     
     
     
    ------
    Those printed lyrics have no resemblance to what's actually sung. The latter part is included as narration at the end of the original version on NEW AGE CULTURE~第一楽章~, though.
    *'4' in japanese can be read as 'shi'- 死 meaning 'death'
    *操り人形 meaning marionette. For some reason the 'ri' is written with the kanji 綉 meaning 'embroidery' here.
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