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Vidoll hands down.

I had no idea Sarah Jessica Parker was in one of their videos!

Please do yourself a favor and watch one of VK's finest videos:
 


 
(But seriously, if you don't like this song, chances are you won't like most of Vidoll stuff. Their earlier music, at least).

I guess it depends on the show and the crowd. On one hand you have hardcore shows where the focus is the pit, and on the other you have VK / Dir en grey shows where the crowd reacts in HORROR at the sign of a mosh pit. At VK and mainly the Dir en grey shows I have witnessed, people are there to get as close to the band as they can, want as little movement as they can, and want to focus on what the members are doing on stage. I have seen a few mosh pits at Dir en grey shows in years past; but they're either extremely small, or have people that don't know how to mosh in the first place (one guy was throwing punches at people and hit several in the face). At hardcore shows, there is more often than not a big crowd up front climbing over each other and screaming while a huge wall of death goes on behind them. They're two very different atmospheres that I feel have to be gauged accordingly.
 
 
I won't mosh at a hardcore show for the reason that there's a bit too much chaos for my liking. There's a venue nearby that is in a basement, and features a balcony that hangs over the floor. Well, during high energy shows, not only will people crowd surf; but people will launch themselves from the balcony onto the crowd below. It's a total joy to watch; but it can be rough being apart of it when you don't know what to expect.
 
 
 
I'm fine with moshing, and will take part in it; but it has to be the right show for it, has to have the right crowd for it, and you have to be in the right mood for it. Sometimes I want to hang by the bar and enjoy a band's set, other times I want to dive head first into the assault and see what happens.

I could tell her she's wrong, she wouldn't care. I'm old enough to move, but my country's economy and job market doesn't let me to do that. Anyway, that's not the topic about toxic parents, but about astrology xD.

I would totally just move to Universal Studios if I lived in Florida. I'd just... park my ass over there and refuse to move. Hang onto some valuable objects guards would not be ready to sacrifice to get me out.

wooh it took some time but upvoted all of your pics though it didnt change anything :/
 
anyway i need ya help now! D;
 
vote this one up please:

 
and will be also cool if you'll downvote others as well :v thanks 

Sure, tho I can tell you Sludge can be over a ton of different styles of metal (lots of bands include sludge breaks ect.) and since downtempo isn't considered a genre here, I can't tell you if they are the same thing... possibly not entirely since it's a scene that's evolving in a totally different region. To use a description from a metal website
But some of the most popular sludge bands are EYEHATEGOD, Down/Superjoint Ritual, and one of my fav (unfortunately defunct) bands Acid Bath. Superjoint is more on the hardcore side. Acid Bath has a good mix of tempo. Eyehategod and Down are really slow but not that heavy (imo). So there is a bit of a vacancy in the slow (downtempo) and brutal side of sludge in my library, but maybe this list can help you if you're looking for more than my limited knowledge.

I always look so sad in pictures when I'm actually quite happy, lol.
 

I do feel like they're rushing things since ZION, like they're trying to strike while the iron is hot and push as much material out as they can. And it's not as heartfelt as the old stuff. And while I agree with you on that, I don't think their original releases were done strictly to get the attention they got. It felt like they were writing for themselves, but once The Dream, The Space got label interest outside of Japan everything became more formulated and they started writing to appease a more global market. I do hope that once they feel like they have some solidarity in the international scene, they'll go back to writing based on their own interests... but who knows. I don't think they'll ever sound like TATFTDB or TD,TS again because I think they've matured past that but I do hope it sounds more heartfelt and a bit more creative again. 
 
We've all got our impressions and opinions. That's why I wanted to have this thread! Speak your mind! 
 
 
Right now, I don't think so. But I do think they'll get there in the future. Every time they come over this way they spread out a little more. 

I think there isn't already a topic about it, at least I didn't find... 
 
Whatever:
 
Mosh pit is a very common thing at metal shows in some places, and there are people who enjoy it a lot and people who think it's stupid (and I get why). Personally I enjoy joining mosh pits (in my country it's often called "roda punk" (something like "punk circle" lulz)), for me it's a funny thing.
 
What do you guys think about it?
 
 

Apocalyze is growing me but to me it feels like it lacks the heart and umph that the previous releases had. I feel that the hard work in their previous releases was pretty much done so they could break it in mainstream and catch that attention they seem to be getting now. With this heat, I fear that the bands future  releases will suffer the same thing I feel is plaguing this last album. Its so common now. And its a tad bit sad because they really are a great band.
 
I may be wrong and in the minority here but this is my musical side speaking/observing haha.

I love ZION and Apocalyze. Always headbang hard to them. I think they are a powerful band with a strong sound, I hope to see them live someday. I wanna try the wall of death, it seems sick 8D

Gemini here. Probably the most hated sign in the zodiac. We either lied, cheated, or flaked on you like 100 times. I know. I know. Sorry. We grow out of it, usually. I'm on the cusp though and I think I have more Cancer traits than Gemini. Aries moon also keeps me more grounded, I think...
 
The rundown:
Sun: Gemini
Moon: Aries
Rising: Capricorn
Chinese Zodiac Sign: Dog (Yang and Water element)
 
Houses:

There are quite a few problems here:
 
 
1. "This is a broad description, but it brings with it serious doubts about anything I said being entirely wrong" - This does not logically follow in regards to your previous comment. Now you're arguing about the Japanese Idol Culture and its existence, where as previously you were making arguments about "sincere", "authentic", and "famewhoring" artists (buzzwords that have 0 meaning when in consideration of their musical context -- i.e. the music they're making). I can see what you're trying to do; but it doesn't follow because there is a disconnect between the two points you're trying to tie together. Being an Idol =/= someone isn't sincere about what they're doing (remember: The Music Industry is a business at the end of the day, and these are people that WANT to get into this business, regardless of its musical merits, or lack thereof). "Sincerity" is not only a buzzword in this context; but it involves someone's motives which you have no clue of. Thus, that can't be argued. Second, notice the lack of citation in the long description regarding Japanese Idol Culture. Are we to accept a source for its lack of citation? To do so would be fallacious, but what's worse is:
 
 
2. "You can also take the numerous scandal reports into account..." No, you can't, because said information is incredibly suspect, and based off of internet rumors that (I'm guessing) are found on Tumblr, MH, and various other sites where gossip on this topic is readily available. Do we have certainty that ALL of this is true? No. We don't even have a guarantee that half of it is true. The problem with making assertions from such sources, is that they tend not to hold up. Though, I'm not willing to go to the extreme to disregard ALL of it, because that oddly enough, supports what I said from the start:
 
 
3. You're making arguments based on an image, and not based on the merits of the music itself. I find it appalling that someone who stresses "authentic" music and artists is so hung-up on the image a band portrays, and not the very music that they make. You're upset that it infringes on your belief of what "true" metal is, when you don't even bother to talk about the music and what "true metal" is in the first place. Instead, you glossed over it in one sentence and called it "fine" -- if I recall correctly. This is the part of your argument you're failing to unite. You are trying to discredit BABYMETAL as artists without touching their music. Instead, you are critiquing their image based on what you think you know from Internet Articles and rumors, and trying to draw it into a musical context of "well, this is bad Metal, because it's not AUTHENTIC". If we are to even BEGIN talking about something being "authentic" or not, then you will have to develop heavily-scrutinized criteria to begin the conversation. If you can define this, we can perhaps go from there.
 
 
Sadly, when discussing music and its merits, the music needs to be discussed, not the "image" and stage gimmick of a band. But, you are unable to do so, so you attempt to make this idealized (and heavily Romanticized) argument that there is this magical (yet to be defined by you) difference between a "true" artist and an "inauthentic" one. Are Japanese Idols as skilled as someone who is a professional Opera singer? No (as the Wiki page mentions these are inexperienced kids being signed); but the lack of experience =/= a lack of authenticity, or a lack of sincerity. After all, Japanese Idols fall under their own niche of appreciation.
 
 
4. "As to your pop music description..gosh you're a smartass. Creating an issue where there isn't one." You seem to have missed the point I was making. You are arguing that BABYMETAL are not authentic because of the whole list of buzzwords you have mentioned up to this point. The problem is, by your logic, if you take those words ("famewhoring, pop idol machinery, sincere, authentic artists, puppets, sellout, and fabricated") you can just as easily slap that onto Metal, another Popular genre, that revolves around Marketability, and the music industry (i.e. labels) for distribution, to make a similar point that it's not "authentic" music when in consideration of Art Music. The reason why I refuse to do so, is because not only is that argument just as baseless; but it doesn't logically follow.
 
 
 
 
tl;dr: Attaching your problem with an image of a band to their music is detrimental, and irrational, because it says nothing about the music even though it's trying to make a critique on it as a whole. You have Romanticized ideals as to what music "should" be (though music should never be anything other than "art for art's sake"), and are unable to discuss the merits of the music to unite and better define your argument. Don't like the band? Fine, I don't either; but don't let your terrible idea as to what makes music "authentic" try to make comments on the music that you are unable to argue against (based on your inability to write a Pop composition).
 
 
 
 
"there is more in music than famewhoring and pure instrumentals...."
 
JS Bach would be rolling in his grave right now.

Ew, Lana Del Ray and Sky Ferreira. At least you're consistent with your taste in pop singers who sound like they came back from a 3 day bender, then swallowed the entire bottle of xanax before they recorded their albums. 
 
http://www.last.fm/user/digital_bounce

Ew, Lana Del Ray and Sky Ferreira. At least you're consistent with your taste in pop singers who sound like they came back from a 3 day bender, then swallowed the entire bottle of xanax before they recorded their albums. 
 
http://www.last.fm/user/digital_bounce

I enjoyed KuRt during their time, but I enjoyed CPS a lot more during theirs. It was just more polished and solid to me.

Ew, Lana Del Ray and Sky Ferreira. At least you're consistent with your taste in pop singers who sound like they came back from a 3 day bender, then swallowed the entire bottle of xanax before they recorded their albums. 
 
http://www.last.fm/user/digital_bounce

^ Cool taste. UPLIFT SPICE, BUCK-TICK, paramore and lynch. are all bands that I enjoy.
 
01. うさぎさんの片耳ちょんぎったろか - 情緒不安定
02. ハイスイノナサ - 均質化する風景
03. oono yuuki - +-
04. SZA - Green  Mile
05. コトリンゴ - terrarium
06. 阿部芙蓉美 - さみしいときはどうしている
07. Krizz Kaliko - Dumb For You (Feat. T-Pain)
08. Tomoya Naka - Météore
09. オワリカラ - 勇敢なるビイヒヤナウ
10. Quantic & Alice Russell - Travelling Song
 
 
Interesting mix of songs here. I'm gonna run with the Abe Fuyumi song, tho...this song has such a great, uplifting vibe and her vocals are angelic!

I never heard this Serj song before so I looked it up and it's really good (a lot meaning always in his songs)!

1. Alesana - Obsession Is Such An Ugly Word
2. Paramore - CrushCrushCrush (Acoustic)
3. Buck-Tick - パラダイス
4. But by Fall - A Thousand Miles Away
5. lynch. - roaring in the dark
6. Half-Life - Boy & Girl
7. I See Stars - The Big Bad Wolf
8. UPLIFT SPICE - ガリレオ
9. Throwdown - Face the Mirror
10. Akissforjersey - Dressed For The Occasion
 
Excited to see I See Stars next week. I would have picked them but that Uplift Spice song just gets me going like crazy. XD

I'm still lurking ocassionally. Just really busy with life. so until everything settles, I won't be in chat or posting much. T_________T I'm not going away forever.

I agree with some of the prior comments in that not all vocalists are singers but all singers are vocalists. Meaning, "vocals" entail multiple vocal styles like screaming, yodeling, whistle register, singing, ect. "Singing" is a more specific and rigid term. So if you are calling someone a talented vocalist it is appropriate for all styles, but a talented singer would only be used by someone who sings in the general sense of the word. ((Even with all of that said, I've been known to say "singer" when I mean "vocalist" quite a lot due to laziness and general acceptance of the word "singer" also being used as a placeholder for "front-man" and other like terms.))
 
And I don't think one is any less prestigious than the other, the only way I pass judgement is if the performer is skilled or unskilled at their chosen vocal style.

CAT5 and I must know, so please.

So I was just having a discussion with a good friend about this topic and now I'm curious to know what you all think as well. What do you all feel defines a vocalist, and what do you all feel defines a singer? Is being a vocalist more of an appropriate term for an extremely talented singer, or do we just call them singers? Is being called just a singer any less respectable than being refered to as a vocalist (vice versa)?
 
Let me know, i'm curious to hear your opinions on this!