TheBistroButcher666

That doesn't really explain anything.

I know right. Didn't they always play soft pop rock anyway. Look at how legit we are now playing poppy poopcore!

Oh nice, it doesn't mention the difference between each type? I'm assuming one comes with a DVD the other doesn't. Also, does anyone know if he released a PV DVD for his last three singles? The song preview's on YouTube appear to have video shot for them. Is it a super duper live only privilege or something? Anyway looking forward to more cheesy campy gothic music.

I think the biggest reason is definitely issue number 2. Besides you're only cool when you post rarez owld skewl stuff like Kilah, Zodiack and Asylum harharhar!!

I know right!? This album would have been a huge let down with Kamijo as the vocalist. He does so much better in music that fits his singing style and voice, he just isn't a metal vocalist. Exactly! If you came expecting frilly vampire themed music then you're going to be disappointed. They're definitely not Versailles anymore and if you liked that part about Versailles more than the metal, then that's why we have Kamijo's solo project.

I think really the problem with singing in Japanese is you're stigmatizing and stereotyping your band. If you're going to form a VK band what kind of audience are you trying to appeal to anyway? Western VK fans are probably going to hate you, Japanese fans aren't going to care unless you can actually get to Japan but good luck immigrating as a musician and so that leaves you with your local audience. Singing in Japanese will most likely alienate any potential listeners but that's if you're music is either worth listening to in the first place. Sing in your native language and if you have a rich daddy like Yohio that can get you signed to Universal Japan then sing in Japanese because you'll be singing to an audience that is relevant. I admit, when I saw the name Pinku Jiatsu I immediately thought it was going to be shit because they were dumb enough to name themselves that. It's fine if you like singing in Japanese but leave that for karaoke. I agree that there's some bias hate towards these bands though, no denying that. If they were Japanese people would love them, stuff like Pinku Jiatsu could have been a DEViL KiTTY song and Romantica seems like something the Kote KKK would circlejerk all over. I don't think Sada's solo stuff is terrible at all and more Kote KKK circlejerk material, Jet Set Gypsies are really good except for the awkward silly Japanese verses and chin vaginas and I liked Abaddon and wished they had more music. Well don't listen to manufactured garbage like Visual Moon. There's probably loads of Mongolian folk influenced music but if you only just look at the over produced pop music you're going to have a bad time.

It's cool they put stuff from webshops up on their site now but omg, the prices are just exorbitantly expensive! It's convenient, that's for sure but it's so god damn expensive. So in other words, never used it ever :C

MIRAGE for sure. Loved Akira! Dat dark and dreary voice oomph oomph! But Tomo also has a soft spot in my heart. Also the change between Tomo and Akira wasn't nearly as drastic as say Tatsuya and Asagi. I like Syndrome as well but preferred Tatsuya era over Asagi. I don't think they really composed any songs that really utilized Asagi's strong voice except for maybe Arubino. Phantasmagoria I feel put KISAKI on the map though, at least with foreign fans. If it wasn't for Phantasmagoria I think KISAKI wouldn't be as well known as those other minor indie label owners like Tomozo or something. He'd just be known as that guy that was in that old Deg band. Again strictly from a western perspective. Where's Inartistic at when you need em?? I remember he summed up Phantasmagoria quite well but tl'dr: You shouldn't underestimate the impact Phantasmagoria had on the indie circuit, sure their later new material revival release circlejerk was pretty lack luster and looking back at their music, it wasn't THAT amazing but it sure got people pumped the fuck up. Basically Phantas showed up in 2004 and was all like FUCK YALL DIS IS HOW YOU DO VISUAL KEI!! SO BASICALLY PHANTAS AS MY SECOND THIRD FAVOURITE

35? Holy shit that is sad, he was so young! :C

I'm liking this, I've started listening to Scarlet Valse and really liking these guys.

Last time I bought something from Arithmetica it took over a month to arrive because HOLY SHIT I HAVEN'T BEEN HOME IN OVER A MONTH AND A HALF -___-

The title should really be changed because it was debunked already on a previous page.

Oh :C Glad I didn't get it then. That is dumb! What's even on it then? I thought B TYPE came with live footage? More dumb behind the scenes stuff and making ofs?

If it's just for your own use, there really isn't a right or wrong way to what genre you use. If you like listening to Deathgaze with say Aicle and even though they're technically worlds apart when it comes to genres, if you still like listening to both at the same time. Then tag em as dickbutt kei or whatever just works. Honestly I like to use playlists but if you really are adamant of tagging genres, it's just whatever works for you personally.

HOLY SHIT I LOVE ZIN!! So finally my copy came and ZIN won me over. I think he is a fantastic singer and the vocalist Versailles always needed. I was at first apprehensive when I first heard a preview of him back in April or whenever it was. Especially since HIZAKI has a habit of working with mediocre VK vocalist that never do his music justice. Their first single also had me on the fence but now I see it's because those songs didn't really give him the opportunity to show us how much he really kicks ass! Yet wow, after Decadence I definitely love ZIN. His performance and raw talent really helps carry Jupiter, perfectly complimenting all the guitar wankery quite well. I won't do a track by track review but basically Jupiter really comes off as the metal band Versailles wanted to be. Since they've finally stepped away from the whole vampire concept they now have an opportunity to write music not confined to that theme. So I felt like we got great variety from every song and every member had their moment to shine one way or another. Decadence is totally my favourite. This is what I love about these guys, this song is just so strong and powerful and why I have been listening to HIZAKI from his wee little days. I love ZIN's singing in this song and it was immediately what won me over. It's definitely my favourite song on the album and am I getting some Rhapsody vibes up in this bitch!? ZIN's singing reminds me of some of the techniques you would hear from Alessandro Contri which makes me love it so much (becuz I luv Alessandro) and the symphonic wankery is definitely something I would imagine Luca would write. I love it and can't stop playing it over and over! The choir is a nice touch and well done, especially because some bands will overdo it and will drown everything out in bombastic choir choruses and so forth. Scarlet is another that I really love. At first I didn't like the preview for it but after hearing the full thing, it really is an awesome song and everything I would expect from Teru. It's fast, catchy and definitely has some fun and interesting rifts and soloing. His style really does bring in some variety and color to whatever band he is in. ALLEGORY CAVE caught me by surprise, I had expected this to be the typical instrumental classical guitar wankery song Teru and HIZAKI like to do. Yet it wasn't that at all! I am mixed about it though, ZIN's singing and gnarly harsh vocals are great but it's just so typical VK to do a heavy verse soft chorus format. I mean, it's definitely better than any of the fake metal bands VK fans love like OZ, BIOSPHIRA and Mejibray could ever do ever but it's still tad bit boring. I guess because every song on the album is so refreshing and then you get the lame "hard" song. I think either ditch the soft chorus and keep it harsh or make the harsh verses soft vocals instead? It's just a format I don't like that much. PERSONAL OPINION MMKAY!? Other highlights, the swapping between acoustics and that other frilly stuff they do in Atmosphere is cool! I like the riftage in Symmetry Breaking and really liking what ZIN did for the chorus here. Classical Element is quite good and only 12 minutes? That's great because I felt like Versailles' attempt to do longer and longer songs each album was getting tiring. Especially songs like Faith & Decision which felt like they were just trying to push to do a long song for the sake of doing a long song. I am debating about buying the B Type now HA! I really want hear the live recordings. I am super curious to hear what ZIN sounds like live and if all the amazing stuff I just heard is studio magic y'know? Either way, I'm all up on the Jupiter bandwagon now. I'm looking forward to more from the band and I hope this world tour actually comes to the US because I would love to see them live.

I've had a few responses when I bought something from a super duper indies band and posted a photo of it on twitter with them tagged in it. Usually it's a retweet or moon speak.

Technically majority of the Japanese music I have is Visual Kei but I felt it would be an insult to tag my nonVisual Japanese music as that lolololol.

Dude, just do whatever works best for you. Honestly I tag most of my Japanese music as just Japanese. Some artist that don't fall under wishy washy genre like say Sabbat I'll label them as their appropriate genre. Now if you tag things poorly on Last.fm IMA CUT YOU >:U Otherwise if you're on the interbutts recommending something to a new listener, then use genres that are descriptive and avoid using vague wishy washy genres like Visual Kei or Jrock or J metal and stupid shit like that. Ugh and calling a band J metal or Jrock is so weeabooish and people that do that need to drink acid. You don't call Blind Guardian Gmetal or Kukrynsky R-rock or Megadeth Ametal. I feel like doing that will unfairly stigmatized the band as some sorta animu theme song band and driving away potential serious listeners. Oh and another rule of mine is I never classify a VK band by the clothing. I label Versailles as Symphonic/Power Metal, not Aristocratic Vampire Kei Metal.

In the US it depends on what state you're in and then it gets even more out of control depending on what city or other jurisdictions you're in. So I can only speak in regards to Washington but Washington state has pretty ridiculous alcohol prices. We have a wonderful sin tax thanks to a bunch of cry babies and bible thumpers that need to save us from the devil. So it's not just booze that is pricy, it's also smokes too. For example laws were passed recently to allow grocery stores to sell hard liquor but the catch was that there would be an additional 25% tax on top of it plus another 7% per liter. Making liquor even more expensive than when you could only buy it in limited amounts from poorly ran government stores. You could always buy beer and wine at grocery stores and there are no additional taxes added. Fortunately this caused our craft beer scene to flourish because no one wants to spend $50 on a tiny bottle of spirits when they can instead get a pack of 10% proof IPAs from the grocery store for $8.00. Bar prices it's always more and it just depends on the beer and liquor. Average is about $5-8 for beer here and will go up depending on the specialty of the beer you're ordering. Mix drinks are usually about $10-15 and that just depends if you get top shelf liquor or if it's just a high end establishment. Also the two worse places in the world Utah and Oklahoma have laws that won't allow you to sell beer that has more than 3% of alcohol in it. So basically fuck those places. (BTW I don't know the exact percentage of taxes, so those are just estimates. I just drink beer and don't pay those taxes.)

I WROTE A WHOLE BUNCHA STUFF BUT MY BROWSER CRASHED >:U tl;dr I am not anti-file sharing and I agree that the "industry" needs to get with the times or die out like the newspaper and stop trying to pass broken and invasive laws to protect their failing business model. I agree with all that. I just don't believe music should be free and all that other hippy faggot anarcho bullshit people try to spew. If you are a fan, you will do your part to support your favorite artist. Music isn't free and there are a lot of people trying to live off of it. Whether it's the artist themselves, the producer, the ghost writer, the graphic designer and just so many more. It's fine if someone can't afford every single release, I know I can't but just buying something here and there to show your support goes a long way, especially for smaller artists. Basically when I start having fits is when ignorant "fans" try to justify why they shouldn't have to pay for music or how it's soooooo unfair that their super duper indies band can't release a CD in bumbfuck nowhere Paraguay or Canada. Then when said band makes their music available and affordable via digital outlets they still just can't be arsed to spend a few bucks to support the artist.