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https://www.last.fm/music/DIR+EN+GREY/BLITZ+5+DAYS/+images/4746910715b69f273d08ef242333db92 up pls and downvote the other two pls, it's a wrong title~

Yeah, about that... I looked them up, found literally nothing. Not on discogs, nowhere...

There are actually two versions of the 2ND DEMO tape: Special cover: https://www.discogs.com/LALIENE-2ND-DEMO/release/11695644 Regular version: https://www.discogs.com/LALIENE-2ND-DEMO/release/2161768 Also, is there any source at all that DEG took their name from that song? Wouldn't surprise me, but I read that the "translation mistake thing" was their own fault, not Lareine's... At the very start of the song, the singer sings "Haiiro no anata ni - dir en gray", so it could be that the "silver coin" thing was made up by DEG... or so? Confusing @.@ And there was also a band called "Dir & Gray" in the early 90s?

Maybe not as interesting as the other examples in this thread, but DIR EN GREY always makes me chuckle. They took the Japanese 灰色の銀貨 (Haiiro no Ginka = Grey Silver Coin) and, for whatever reason, decided to translate it into three different languages: German, French and English - Dir En Grey. The only problem? "Dir" doesn't mean "Silver Coin": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dir#German What DOES mean "Silver Coin"? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Silbermünze I wonder when it dawned on them that their name is a mistranslation...

Karma was included on Kaede ~if trans...~ and as a single track on Utafull in 2008, I think.

I can only speak for Germany, but from my experience here, it's DEG > Gazette > Mucc. The first two were often seen in an old music magazine called Rockoon, Mucc on the other hand was no name. I think aside of (and maybe even more than) DEG and Gazette, bands like Ancafe and Girugamesh were the most popular J-bands in Germany. They appeared in countless youth magazines, even the BRAVO. But the J-music time has long since faded and I'm always surprised when I'm outbid on ebay on a German seller's item.

He asked the same thing three weeks ago... I mean, wouldn't you think that as soon as anything new would be released, it would be posted on this board? o.ô

Is this what Kyo sounds like in pre-production?

TIL Laliene (pre-Lareine) had a demo tape with a song called "Dir en gray"... in 1995... HMMMMM... By the way, there's a DEG discord now, if anyone wants an invite, hmu

I have a lot of Dir en grey scans from Fool's Mate 1997~00, hmu if you want a link. Edit: Completely forgot I posted them here already: Those are just Fool's Mate scans, I have some more clippings from other magazines, sometimes about other bands from that era, too.

Yeah, but DEG was one of those bands once, too But I think, most of their rare stuff has already been discovered and they don't have any special live-only CDs or so (aside of red/black TtB). Occasionally, I find a "not for sale" VHS with some random stuff, but that's really only for collectors and I'll upload it sooner or later anyway. Still, I'd wish there'd be someone who has rare indies DEG stuff that I don't know of

I'm always surprised that there are these people with deep vk roots selling superduper rare stuff, but nobody ever has anything by Dir en grey that's even close to being rare/special

How does one know what he's missing when he doesn't know that he's missing it? 🤔

To preface this, I'm not in the vkei scene (neither Japanese nor international) and I don't know about its situation in regards to piracy. Aside of DIR EN GREY, I own maybe 30 albums/DVDs physically, and none of them is vkei stuff. So this is more about general piracy in the music scene. I hardly knew about MH before joining, I almost never use it for vk downloads since I only listen to DEG (and their related bands) anyway, so I'm not here to grab any rips from random no-name vkei bands. I also have never been on batsu or used jpopsuki before. But I have been using piracy for 99.9% of all music I've ever acquired. I don't say this with pride, but with indifference. I don't care if the artist doesn't make as much money because of me, because there's no scenario in which he would. Even if I wouldn't download the album, I still wouldn't buy it and I'm not a fan of streaming, either. So there's no potentially lost money, because there is no potentially won money. And while I'm aware that this position makes my vulnerable to those with the moral high ground, I won't change this either. I currently have 100 artists scrobbled on my last.fm, that's about 1/5th of all artists I've ever pirated an album from. Imagine if the only way I'd be able to listen to those artists would be by buying their music. It would be impossible. I would not even be able to DIR EN GREY alone if I'd only listen to their bought music (and I do buy their music, of course). So the logical conclusion to me is: Either I pirate their music and listen to the band without paying them, or I don't bother with them and they won't get my money, either. It's a lose/lose situation for them. And I think that this sentiment won't change, ever. Most people simply don't have enough money to buy all the music they like, it's literally impossible. So from my perspective, the artists are asking us to either chose them (for the purchases) or don't listen to them at all. I don't think that's the way to handle their fanbase, since the band needs the fans, not the other way around. I think that instead, the band needs to find other way to make money. They need to go with the flow, they can't be stuck in the "if we act like this, people will surely buy our music instead of pirating it". Nope, that won't happen. People will simply drop you and listen to other bands.

I still get this Super Mario N64 feeling from TnA's outro melody...

Romanisation is "Kagekui" = "Shadow-Eater" or "Shadow-eating".

Does Blood Stain Child count?

It could also mean someone who acts like a human, but doesn't really relate to them or feels like a human underneath the mask... or so Or maybe it's about skinwalkers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What makes you connect those two things?

Hopefully.

So... what's your point? They aren't sold in Japan, period. They might be sold to (and among) Westerners, because muh filthy gaijin weeaboo trash deserves to be ripped off. But in Japan and among Japanese (or knowledgeable Western) fans, they're generally not sold, not published and, if the trader asks you to, you're not even supposed to trade them with others. If you act against the "unwritten rules" of the tereko community, you're shunned pretty quickly and can say good-bye to trading, basically.

Terekos aren't sold, at least not in Japan. The batsu guys, on the other hand... By the way, I have the INSANITY cover from back in the day, give me 30 bitcoins and I send it over.

How would one do that when it's released in April?

Ah yes, that matches what I found. So they covered her and Inoue had his own "band" that day, lul. Thank you.

I didn't even count the Osakajo Hall performance.