paradoxal 2948 Posted July 10, 2014 ヴィドール VS. Phantasmagoria Which one of these two UNDER CODE bands is your favorite? I'll just have to chooce vidoll because they used to be my favorite band haha. Their indie stuff is still amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Magatsu Posted July 10, 2014 Difficult!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not going for Vidoll. I loved phantasmagoria much more. So I choosed them. But both are great bands (^o^)/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyura 465 Posted July 10, 2014 I have many fond memories of both bands, but both disappointed me a lot, too. Phantasmagoria, before their original disbandment, when they released proper songs, not just leftovers, rererererecordings and ballads intended to make nostalgic fans cry and throw money at them, were great. And there are many songs I still love listening to. They were very vk, didn't leave out any fun cliché to make lives more enjoyable, copying from pretty much everywhere but kinda turning it into their own thing. Juns songwriting was still great. They could play all their songs in one show but each song was memorable. Not really original, but memorable and fun. Their lyrics were cheesy romantic messes, but it didn't matter because they didn't take themselves too serious either. As for ヴィドール...well they sold themselves, too. Most songs on their major releases, actually even the later UCP stuff were a waste of talent, but I still think everything they did for the first few years is flawless. There wasn't (and isn't) a band that could compare to them either, they really had their own sound that captured me from the very first time I listened to them and still captures me today. In comparison to Magomago they released a TON but since each release had it's own theme and they didn't focus on only live tracks but also experimented a lot that didn't matter at all. I loved listening to their CDs as I loved seeing them live and there propably won't be an active band I love as much again. As opposed to Phantasmagoria I have to be in the right mood to listen to their songs because they aren't something I could just play in the background, so maybe I actually listen to them less often. Still. I think that they are (or were, as I'm only referring to their UCP years) simply the better band. More versatile, much, much more original, more 'serious' and less of a fun easy-listening kind of band, better lyrics, a band with an actual concept and themed releases. On top of that my favorite band for many years. So. My vote goes to ヴィドール~ 1 susel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Kinma 960 Posted July 10, 2014 I vote Vidoll, all of their stuff up to 2007/2008 are epic, and because I prefer Jui more and more than Riku and because, instead of Phantasmagoria, they don't recycling all of their old song on their new release... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted July 10, 2014 This is a hard one since both bands were excellent in their own style, especially at the beginning. I will have to choose Phantasmagoria tho, because they sucked for a shorter period of time than Vidoll, lol (who basically began their downward spiral while they were still at UC). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Biopanda 2675 Posted July 10, 2014 There were very few Mago songs that I actually liked(only ones that comes to mind were Pixy False and KamiUta, though there might have been others), while Vidoll was one of the first VK bands that I really got into and loved most of their pre-major discography. I think that makes it pretty clear for me that my vote should go to Vidoll~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saishuu 3220 Posted July 10, 2014 lol Vidoll's early stuff has more quality than anything Phantasmagoria ever thought of making. Vidoll gets my vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted July 10, 2014 Phantasmagoria was my jam from 11th~12th grade, and I still appreciate them from time to time now. Because of that, I'm going with them. I even liked some of their revival stuff that everyone hated :V Vidoll has a lot of cool songs though from throughout their discography, not just their first few releases (Loved Ikaros and Gothikroid-kai), but weren't as monumental for me. I still follow Kisaki, but don't follow any of the ex-vidoll guys, so there's that as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz 1097 Posted July 10, 2014 voting for phantasmagoria because they were one of the first vk bands i really got into and even now i still find their music quite enjoyable. and also riku is one of my favorite vocalists so yeah :v Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyoselflove 2680 Posted July 10, 2014 I love Vidoll!! I use to listen to them all the time. I love Rame and his new band, but I also like Kisaki but for nostalgia I'm going with Vidoll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nullmoon 784 Posted July 10, 2014 Shamefully I've never listened to Vidoll. Can anyone point me towards what I should listen to release-wise? Didn't Phantasmagoria only have around 20ish songs which they rereleased and reordered in various albums before disbanding?! XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digi 192 Posted July 10, 2014 Kind of a hard choice. While early-Vidoll was beyond great, I wasn't a fan of the latest releases they had put out before splitting. Phantasmagoria were good at what they did, but I never thoroughly enjoyed their stuff. Despite that, I'm gonna choose Vidoll just because the early releases make up for anything I didn't quite enjoy in later years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted July 10, 2014 Shamefully I've never listened to Vidoll. Can anyone point me towards what I should listen to release-wise? Didn't Phantasmagoria only have around 20ish songs which they rereleased and reordered in various albums before disbanding?! XD Some of my favorites and is a good mix of their different eras-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yute4EC-djQ Sorry most of them are fan vids. It was either that or people attempting to sing covers... 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nullmoon 784 Posted July 10, 2014 Awesome, thank you! Any particular albums/releases that are good/have these songs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saishuu 3220 Posted July 10, 2014 Shamefully I've never listened to Vidoll. Can anyone point me towards what I should listen to release-wise? Please do yourself a favor and watch one of VK's finest videos: (But seriously, if you don't like this song, chances are you won't like most of Vidoll stuff. Their earlier music, at least). 3 Elazmus, Miasma and doombox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted July 11, 2014 I had no idea Sarah Jessica Parker was in one of their videos! 3 stylelover, Jigsaw9 and doombox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted July 11, 2014 Vidoll. They were good for many years before they went just decent. Phantasmagoria never made a single listenable song. Pathetic band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jduv86 224 Posted July 11, 2014 Vidoll. Catchy songs and Jui's voice is one of the top singers in VK. I have so many fond memories of Vidoll. IMO the "V.I.D." album destroys all or at least most Phantasmagoria's music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
togz 2004 Posted July 11, 2014 Vidoll hands down. 1 doombox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miyuu 40 Posted July 11, 2014 i didn't vote yet.i do not know they both seemed great at their time. great vkei band memories xD.also i was oblivious about kisaki bad rumors back then.to be honest i am kind of sad of what happened to them compared past with nowdays.but i like that jui and jun end up together xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura Seven 593 Posted July 12, 2014 Gonna have to say Vidoll. Long, prolific career, varied sound, great song-writing, decent lyrics. Unlike many people here, I really enjoyed their major-era. I wasn't into Mago much, even when they were big. Never liked how they constantly rehashed their old stuff instead of making new material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaolan974 6185 Posted July 13, 2014 Phantasmagoria because this is one of the best Visual band of all the time. That's all. Vidoll was good too but after their graduation they became really really disappointing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elazmus 1873 Posted July 22, 2014 Vidoll is love, comparing early Vidoll to Phantasmagoria is the best way to go about it style-wise. Phantasmagoria is a band that had me always scratching my head as to why I wasn't really into them... They would impress me in certain ways but I guess they never agreed with me. As for Vidoll's later years, I still loved them enough to follow Jui through his solo releases and really get into Gotcharocka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted July 22, 2014 There is no real way of comparing those two bands. However, in the end, I'll choose Phantasmagoria over anything. No other band has touched me this deep, this hard, and this genuinely. A lot of their tracks are full-blown emotional rollercoasters (Kisaki's trademark), and somehow they always just manage to hit the right spot. Regardless of likely being Kisaki-biased, I still consider them in my VK's top 3 consisting of Lareine, D, and Phantasmagoria. My heart still aches for them. I suppose it ever will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TakaGacktHyde 19 Posted July 23, 2014 i love them both. i have more mago than vidoll on my ipod. but i'd still choose vidoll simply because im a rametan fangirl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
