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I'm busy with real-life stuff lately, so still working through it... but in the mean time: There's a ton of meat to chew through here. So for your benefit and mine, let's define some terms and bounds: --- 【TERMS】 I'll use these terms to differentiate between the “alternate realities” that we're working with: ● “canon” - official; information given by KISAKI and recorded in multiple publications ● “semi-canon” - information from KISAKI but in an unofficial capacity (eg. information in his secret auctions) ● “non-canon” - information from a 3rd party (eg. rips floating on the net) ● “true” - something that actually happened or exists in real life --- 【BAND HISTORY】 So here's our *canon* (but not necessarily *true*) version of KISAKI's band history. Note that I'm only listing the begin dates of these bands―not every single appearance or revival. ● 1992~ SCARE CROW (roadie) ● 1993~ Levia ● 1994~ LAYBIAL ● 1994~ SHËY≠DË, garden (support), KISAKI (solo project) ● 1994~ garden, Ruby (support), SHËY≠DË (one day revival), De=prive (session?) ● 1995~ STELLA MARIA, 廃人黒薔薇族 (session) ● 1996~ La:Sadie's ● 1997~ MIRAGE, アンチフェミニズム ● 2000~ Syndrome ● 2003~ 妃&関西貴族, KISAKI PROJECT ● 2004~ Phantasmagoria ● 2010~ 凛 -the end of corruption world- ● 2014~ 凛 -THE END OF CORRUPTION WORLD- --- 【DOPPLEGANGERS】 I'll quickly touch on dopplegangers. Many of KISAKI's early (canon) bands were followed by later bands with the same name. I'll designate those with [non-KISAKI]. ● Levia[non-KISAKI] - active around 1993(?); V. 冬樹 / G. 沙霧 / B. AINE / D. HIRO ● LAYBIAL[non-KISAKI] - Matina band active around 1999 ● GARDEN[non-KISAKI] - Matina band active 2000~2002 ● De≠prive[non-KISAKI] - First band of Madeth gray'll vocalist, active possibly around 1995~1996? --- 【WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN】 This thread is questioning two things, as I see it: 1. Are KISAKI's early bands *real*? 2. If so, are those early bands' discographies *real*? KISAKI's time in the following bands is conclusively *real*, based on multiple sources of information, extant releases, photos, videos, etc.: ● SCARE CROW, garden, Ruby, STELLA MARIA, 廃人黒薔薇族, La:Sadie's, MIRAGE, アンチフェミニズム, Syndrome, 妃&関西貴族, KISAKI PROJECT, Phantasmagoria, 凛 The following bands are *canon*, but their *real*-ness is questioned: ● Levia, LAYBIAL, SHËY≠DË, KISAKI (first solo project), De=prive --- 【DISCOGRAPHY】 Here are the *canon* discographies of the bands which we're questioning (anything in green is *non-canon*): Levia 　　1993-01-10 - 滅序章 　　　　1.滅序章 / 2.PROLOGUE / 3.蒼ノ真相 / 4. Die&DEA / 5. EPILOGUE 　　1993-12-21 - KELOID 　　　　1.KELOID / 2.PRAY 　　1994-01-23 - My Duel 　　　　1.My Duel LAYBIAL 　　1994-05-01 - MISS 　　　　1.Dejavu / 2.MISS / 3.virgining Pleasures / 4.Refuse / 5.MOTHER / 6.One More Love 　　1994-05-30 - カケラ 　　　　1.カケラ 　　1994-06-20 - 混乱 　　　　1.混乱 SHËY≠DË 　　1994-07-01 - 奴隷華 　　　　1.DOLL / 2.奴隷華 　　1994-09-01 - 瑠璃の雫 　　　　1.insanity / 2. XXXXX / 3.夢遊病者 　　1994-10-01 - DARK SIDE 　　　　1.CRIME / 2.FUNERAL / 3.苦悩二果テニ (or 1.DARK SIDE ?) KISAKI (solo project) 　　1994-11-10 - ONCE... 　　　　1.ONCE... / 2.届かぬ思い Note: in Levia's canon biography the line “DEMO TAPE発売記念2DAYSワンマン公演開催” indicates that a live was held to celebrate the release of a previous demotape. These lines don't indicate additional demotapes, as some of you were confused about.

To give some ~expert confirmation~ on a few things: - myth_ceo is KISAKI. He sold UCP limited items, his own personal items, and even sold samples which he got from other bands (eg. in his blog he mentions SID giving him a sample of their new single, and then the next day myth_ceo was selling it). I'm also 100% sure that this was KISAKI himself and not a staff member. - KISAKI closed myth_ceo and now has another account on Y!J, something like iyouxi or something (not on PC and can't remember the name). I know it's him for the same reasons listed above (funnily, some people actually complained on that account about him selling samples). - He also has an mbok account which is something like deho_san (again, can't remember), though he doesn't use it often. - His time in STELLA MARIA is 100% confirmed. In addition to tapes, we have flyers and videos confirming. - His time in garden is 100% confirmed. In addition to the real tape being sold on Y!J a ton of times, there is video of garden somewhere. - I'm actually 90% sure the "Once..." tape is real as well, although probably not released as "KISAKI PROJECT" as his official website calls it. The reason I'm sure it's real is that it features the STELLA MARIA vocalist, and it was mentioned on UNDER CODE's website back in 2003 at least. So really what is in question (well, was in question) are the bands Levia, LAYBIAL, and SHEY=DE. As I mentioned before, I bought some tapes from KISAKI, but basically they are fake. However, I want to give some more complete info on them, if you'll just wait for another post. (And sorry for not posting before, but I was still unsure about certain things. Champ's post about the SHEY=DE tracks is what made the difference for me.) I will go ahead and say this, though: although we now know that these demotapes are fake, there is still more to this plot...! Please wait for my next post.

I wonder if the Japanese fans agree. Sometimes I imagine that they don't give a shit as long as the band looks good (which they do)

↑ My theory: if they gain fans, they'll reform as a real band with a different name in 2015. This is probably just a safe way for GOEMON RECORDS to sign a new band that they're unsure about, IMO

This is another that you've probably seen a lot

I mean, since it's AN CAFE I know it's a joke band, but I'll take this fake shit over their usual fake shit any day 8| I'm all for big pop vk bands making fun of goth vk band 'cause it gets their creative juices flowing for once

You missed the chance for a great joke .-.

Hmm, needs more bulge stuffing and weird looking abs

↑ And now they'll also reward PROMOTION DVD 「Chaotic Resistance」 (guess it's a live footage PV) to those who spend 5,000 yen on their live goods, LOL

Best new genre, 2014:

Are you sure?

Sorry about that m(_ _)m

^ I don't think they ever “disbanded” to begin with?? And anyway they said they're pausing activities, so no

Jon, did you happen to save/rip that BALANCE video? I saw it too but didn't save it before they took it down (ugh e_e)

Kyouka and MAST are some messy-ass queens

Well they have always been managed by their own company GOD CHILD RECORDS (major labels coming and going). But I guess now that GCR is helping other bands, it deserves a more official presence, right? Maybe Blitz was using up their OHP budget until now

Just want to report that I purchased and had a good experience

It's not retarded to have the thought. People who actually have this disorder are a VERY small segment of the population, so for two people within the visual kei scene to “come out” with it in a very short time, of course some people are going to have the thought “they're faking it.” People do stupid shit all the time to get out of contracts. That being said, I don't think he's faking (or that the other guy was either)―just a bad coincidence.

Omg that is terrible. Who composed this?!

What happened?

Wow, so disappointing coming off of that great mini! It's even mastered so that the instruments can't even be heard―bad pop song!

I'd like Megaromania - Beauty & Ugliness bootleg and High Style Paradox III please! Shipping is to USA, zip code 22801

^ Not only that, but the price includes a license to use any of the music/sound effects for your own purposes without further compensation... Good price for producers, I'm sure (although I imagine the audience for this release is only 1~2 people, lol). He'll also sell this to overseas people somehow, if you're interested

^ Yeah, Japanese description says “remastered”, unfortunately. Only “new” stuff is a live recording of one song And I'm sure this isn't the album that fans have waited years for―that one will surely never come

It's pronounced “the o (ジオ)” (as in the letter o, not the number 0, despite their URL) Sort of like “geo” (imagine a Japanese accent saying “the o”) ↑ source is SAN @jon_jonz Regalia already got a new bassist