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    doombox got a reaction from Mamo in Any old school bands?   
    I wish I had something to recc for that. In fact I'm eager to see if anyone can come up with something but I'd be curious to hear it too. I only really know of one band doing low-end djenty stuff in vk currently but they aren't Nagoya or Angura. 
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    doombox got a reaction from plastic_rainbow in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    Ahhh yes. This thread is definitely going to be gold. MUCC, D'espa, Vidoll, 12012. <3
     
    Some of my old and new nu metal kei faves.
     
     
    Especially older EYA has a ton of nu metal flair. They were able to broaden their influences as they went on but they're still a really strong contender for a band that was truer to the parts of nu metal that housed hip hop as one of the pillars.
     
    meth. also worked a nice amount of it into some Nagoya influences. Still miss this band a lot. 
     
    Arlequin seems like one of the newer bands carrying the nu metal torch (though further hybridizing it with a few other genres as well) with it still being a main vein in their style from the songs I've heard.
     
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    doombox reacted to helcchi in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    This is Ryohei Borland on Halloween in 2011
     

     
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    doombox got a reaction from SeoulCat in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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    doombox got a reaction from PsychoΔelica in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    That would be the biggest mess trying to hold all of that information in a single thread. News on an entire year's worth of a band's activities, you don't want to imagine trying to filter through that. Most of those bullets don't even have any extra info in that thread, or belong in that thread anyway. Events, tours and such go in the event news forum. Having separate threads for the big items on that list makes it much easier for people to find that is relevant to their interests. 
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    doombox reacted to reminiscing2004 in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    This came into my head instantly. Early Alice Nine kicked so much ass. 華想夢想紙 is a lovely mini, generally not very nü metal, but this song of course.
    7 STRINGS THO
     
    Also, if ムック's Kuchiki no Tou is considered nü metal, that's probably the best nü metal record I've ever heard.
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    doombox got a reaction from Kaleidoscope in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    Ahhh yes. This thread is definitely going to be gold. MUCC, D'espa, Vidoll, 12012. <3
     
    Some of my old and new nu metal kei faves.
     
     
    Especially older EYA has a ton of nu metal flair. They were able to broaden their influences as they went on but they're still a really strong contender for a band that was truer to the parts of nu metal that housed hip hop as one of the pillars.
     
    meth. also worked a nice amount of it into some Nagoya influences. Still miss this band a lot. 
     
    Arlequin seems like one of the newer bands carrying the nu metal torch (though further hybridizing it with a few other genres as well) with it still being a main vein in their style from the songs I've heard.
     
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    doombox got a reaction from Karma’s Hat in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    As @helcchi mentioned, I do think part of the reason EYA went so deep into it was the fact that Rhyohei spent an extended amount of time in America and is also a HUGE Wes Borland (Limp Bizkit) fanboy to the point that he has a portrait of the guy tattooed on him. Did you get to see them in Japan or was this during a European tour? I'm envious.
     
    LOL I have to say I miss the large fan community that used to thrive on youtube before the Japanese labels started actively using the site as a promotional tool. So many great fan videos lost to the abyss now. *tear*
     
    That's an apt description. Since vk is so open ended it can keep building off of the past trends and bring them back up when it suits, rework, reimagine, and keep evolving the sound. Which is part of what makes it so interesting from a western perspective where we tend to be really rigid in our genre definitions. Especially when it comes to metal. 
     
     
     
    More gems in this thread. DI3SIRAE, VanessA. Saruin, SKULL, Unsraw! <3 Man I need to break out all these old albums again. I need to make a 00s party mix.
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    doombox reacted to helcchi in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    @DisposableIt's important to note that the music scene in Nagoya, which birthed Nagoya kei, has traditionally looked to the West for influences and developed independently of Tokyo. Perhaps that's why a lot of 00s Nagoya bands such as EYA were still lingering in that consciousness, even though EYA was an extreme exception as Ryouhei actually spent time living in America.
     
    Nu metal seems to have particularly manifested itself in the Kansai and Nagoya VK scenes (and by extension Shizuoka due to the influence of Sequence Records and Tomozo's fondness of the genre maybe) - almost every band south of Tokyo carried this sound to some extent.
     
     
    Other bands from the mid 00s include 
     
    Reivier's contemporaries VanessA and As if in the darkness
     
     
     
    @Kaleidoscopedezert clones DAMY (Miharu was a dezert roadie which may have influenced their sound)
     
     
     
     
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    doombox reacted to Karma’s Hat in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    @doombox I definitely agree on EYA and it's a bit peculiar why not many other bands went as deep into the sound as they did. I presume this is because after the dust had settled from the initial nu metal phase in vk, most upstart vk bands started taking cues from other vk bands instead of the American originators - with EYA being the exception. I also had the fortune of seeing them live and being a part of the saddest  pity circle pit ( on the band's insistence )  of out of shape weeaboos you'd ever see.
     
    Meth is definitely another blogspot stalwart that stuck around for a uncharacteristically long amount of time. My first time hearing them must have been on one of those MOST BRUTAL VISUAL KEI METAL BANDS videos that you'd might still find on youtube. 
     
    The nu metal riff is so characteristic to visual kei now that it's never going to go away as long as they have guitars on hand. Now it's a co-existence of the newer core influences with the traditional use of nu metal that's been present for a long time now ( which is something that is quite apparent in a portion western metalcore as well. Back in the latter half of the 00's most the new core musicians had grown up on Slipknot which clearly showed through ). Visual kei is an unique mix however from the melodramatic X chorus to Luna Sea's soundscapes, and stuff just keeps piling on it.
     
    @aetarnaYes, it's good that you mentioned Vulgar because there is a good chance it really was the most influential album released in the tradition. Iirc mejibray's tsuzuku said it's what got him to vk ( or at least made a lasting impression- CURIOUSLY ENOUGH he was also keen on having a band that played baroque's brand of vkei, so now we have these two traditions coexisting ) 
     
    As an aside 
     
    If you don't remember these kinds of videos then leave this thread. I reckon the lot of them have been deleted and this is a fairly new one as well from 2010, but at least the spirit lives on in the rad editing and bad english
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    doombox got a reaction from TatsuSan in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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    doombox got a reaction from CAT5 in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    Ahhh yes. This thread is definitely going to be gold. MUCC, D'espa, Vidoll, 12012. <3
     
    Some of my old and new nu metal kei faves.
     
     
    Especially older EYA has a ton of nu metal flair. They were able to broaden their influences as they went on but they're still a really strong contender for a band that was truer to the parts of nu metal that housed hip hop as one of the pillars.
     
    meth. also worked a nice amount of it into some Nagoya influences. Still miss this band a lot. 
     
    Arlequin seems like one of the newer bands carrying the nu metal torch (though further hybridizing it with a few other genres as well) with it still being a main vein in their style from the songs I've heard.
     
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    doombox reacted to Karma’s Hat in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    Consider it a sister thread to the oshare kei one. I think this is a delightful dualism to make, and I am all about that vkei history anyway so I'll take any excuse to make another one of these. 
     
    The adoption of the nu metal riff and attitude into visual kei's musical framework happened just when the scene changed forever with the implosion of the old labels and bands. In the usual visual kei fashion we were late to the party just about a good five years too. It snuck itself in slowly, making cursory appearances at such places as MUCC's Antique from 1999, Kagerou's Biological Slicer from 2000, Aliene Mariage's farewell album 21st Century from 2001 and probably in retrospect most importantly, Dir en grey's Six Ugly from 2002. By the year 2006 ( which saw the release of both eight's ILLATIONAL and Girugamesh' 13's Reborn ) the nu metal riff had fundamentally transformed the landscape of visual kei. Below are some examples of the development that took place.
     
    Before I get to that though, I have to say that there's not many scenes that can even begin to rival the longevity that visual kei bands, venues and its marketplace have enjoyed throughout its history. Still living both in the underground and occasionally even willing to take the L of performing at a half empty Budoukan, it ceases to amaze the spectators that stumble upon it; all the while all the goths of the bat caves, punks of 77' and dadrockers of the whatever, live out their legacies either through grandfathers or hack retro acts that suck by default. Granted it doesn't look the same, but indeed the willingness of its adherents to assimilate new currents have kept the hangman at bay and those nails off its coffin at least for now, which has allowed visual kei to remain a relatively recognisable brand for just about a few years short of three decades. 
     
    This thread while also about the seminal bands that managed to break through, is just like its oshare counterpart moreso dedicated to honor and celebrate those little bands that everyone other than south american blogspots from 2007 forgot. If you were that angry young man in your mid teens back in 2008 you ought to know this stuff by heart
     
     
    If anyone can name an earlier instance of a just straight up nu metal riff I'd appreciate it greatly. Early Mucc is of course classic vkei and Tatsurou puts in just a canonical performance as the narrator of desperate hearts. Their nu metal sound would get thicker and thicker up until 2004, when they went literally out the deep end, supposedly almost disbanding by the sheer weight of the recording process. My preference however remains the very earliest releases up to 2002.
     
     
    From the band that made one of the best visual kei albums of all time comes a ripoff  of "Eyeless" by Slipknot - that's the sound of Aliene imploding into disbandment. While I think it's undeniably shit especially considering merits of their career up to that point, they lowkey took part in pioneering the nu metal sound in visual kei. Keep in mind that at the time of this recording Slipknot's s/t wasn't that old, and it is a sound that vk bands would keep on ripping off for almost a decade afterwards. Another thing of note was that the vocalist Kyoka also ditched the frilly dresses and adopted the nu metal fashion! While his sins are numerous, this has to be his worst offense. Either way an important document for visual kei's metamorphosis.
     
     
    If the disease had only previously been a cough, after Dir en grey got through with it the scene quickly became hospitalised by it. They would continue riding roughshod over the genre until 2008's Uroboros where they'd go on to do more of the scene's pioneering work. Say what you will about them, they've continued to stay relevant through all these years and I think it's only very recently that the scene has stopped riding their coattails as much as it has. 
     
    I'll keep it at that, though rest assured there's certainly numerous other examples of the early usage of the nu metal riff from around 99 to 2002 of varying importance in the canon.
     
    Early Girugamesh is what most people have their fondest memories of, and everything up to 13's Reborn is as good as gold as far nu kei is concerned. Their suit wearing while certainly not the first time it had happen in vkei, it was probably the context in which girugamesh presented it that made all the difference for the future: the blackclad angryman playing just nu metal influenced visual kei. Oddly enough I despised Girugamesh as a child EVEN THOUGH THEY SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME AS ALL THESE OTHER BANDS and it took me deep into adulthood that I finally warmed up to them at all. 
     
    Unsraw was my Girugamesh in a sense that they were the filthiest band I knew in my seminal vk years. Hearing Unsraw sent me on a quest of finding the most rad nu metal vk band out there, and more often than not it just led me to the disappointments that contributed to the failure I am today. Yuuki's vocals made a huge impression on me and it was ever the more bitter pill to swallow that they got very boring very quick. Their Core the Child hits being contemporary with Girugamesh' early ouvre, they can also be considered of relative importance. 
     
    This is what this thread is about. Look at those clothes, that breakdown from 2.10 that lasts for an eternity and Since1889 was in general just the quintessential nukei vk band. So bad it's good.
     
     
    Despite this band having just about eek'd past the 2010 limit, they deserve mention being one of those final bands at the tail end of this fad. The look is still very much 00's and not the glitz of the 10's, and more or less free of the soon scene dominating metalcore riff. Glorious vocals as well.
     
    There's a million of these bands, AND THEY'RE ALL GREAT. Post favs, early specimens in the scene, anything that fits within the parameters.
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    doombox got a reaction from Karma’s Hat in The Nu metal 00's in Visual kei   
    Ahhh yes. This thread is definitely going to be gold. MUCC, D'espa, Vidoll, 12012. <3
     
    Some of my old and new nu metal kei faves.
     
     
    Especially older EYA has a ton of nu metal flair. They were able to broaden their influences as they went on but they're still a really strong contender for a band that was truer to the parts of nu metal that housed hip hop as one of the pillars.
     
    meth. also worked a nice amount of it into some Nagoya influences. Still miss this band a lot. 
     
    Arlequin seems like one of the newer bands carrying the nu metal torch (though further hybridizing it with a few other genres as well) with it still being a main vein in their style from the songs I've heard.
     
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    doombox got a reaction from TheStoic in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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    doombox reacted to suji in lynch.'s Akinori arrested, departs band (12/20)   
    Looks like they'll be on hiatus...
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    doombox reacted to Mamo in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    I think this is a different album from the tribute album.
     
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    doombox reacted to Licio123 in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    Yeah, I just thought it was going to be this one. A new album is much better xD
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    doombox got a reaction from Licio123 in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    They're probably still working on the tribute album, there was never a set release for that yet, right?
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    doombox got a reaction from Furik in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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    doombox got a reaction from Duma in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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    doombox got a reaction from ruki11 in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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    doombox got a reaction from returnal in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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    doombox got a reaction from ShanethVarosa in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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    doombox got a reaction from Scarlet Obsidian in New MUCC album 脈拍 (Myakuhaku) release   
    MUCC will be releasing a new full album on January 25th 2017. The album is set to have 14 tracks including, "Yue ni, Matenro", "Heide" and "CLASSIC."
    Full track list and cover art TBA. Will come in 3 types, 2 limited editions and 1 common type (Type A: CD + DVD + Art Book, Type B: CD + DVD, and Type C: CD only).  
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