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To each their own I guess lol I really like all of their albums.

I couldn't care less about bands' looks or image just the music. Although having an awesome look is nice, but good music is definitely far more important. Also I actually love all of Ghost bath's albums. They have 3 albums now btw @Bear Funeral (February 2014) Moonlover (April 2015) Starmourner (April 2017) Starmourner is cool af, like I mentioned earlier brilliant guitar work.

They need a clap reaction emoji. @nekkichiyou're my god. bow

Same one of the best and most underrated vk drummers.

Not sure if anyone is familiar with them(they've been mentioned on M-H a handful of times) but here is both a modern and Japanese example of Blackgaze わたしと私だったもの(Awakening) by 明日の叙景(Asunojokei): And Ghost Bath Chinese name 鬼浴 which does Atmospheric and Blackgaze stuff. Although the band originally claimed that they were from Chongqing, China, it has been revealed in a 2015 interview with Noisey that they're actually an American band based in Minot, North Dakota. Really brilliant guitar work by these guys.

Will do.

Late April fools or something? Seriously wtf? Guess that's one big come back we mark off the list.

It's on Spotify, also is it supposed to be an ep or a full album because there's only 6 tracks on Spotify or do you just call all releases album(I know plenty of people who do lol)?

Yes but avant-garde can also have no real type of intended musical direction at all or cross over 20 different genres in the course of 1 song. So I do agree with you in a sense about adding an additional genre to to the already existing avant-garde just for clarity. But at the same time I think simply referring to them as simply avant-garde applies just as well. As for everything else you've said about the usefulness of the Post-black metal, I'm largely in agreement for the most part. Btw you've been on topic. We're discussing all of the genres listed in the topic. lol

No offense but I don't actually think there's much difference between the terms avant-garde, progressive, or experimental in any genre. I get what you're saying, which is that the term Post-black metal is ill-defined and seemingly would apply to lots of other bands based on it's current usage. But again couldn't you just say any band that doesn't meet the requirements to be i.e. Melodic black metal, Symphonic, ambient, etc. Since all of the other Black metal sub-genres are clearly defined? So basically ask yourself all of these same questions and if whatever band in question doesn't fit then it's Post-black metal. At the same time I fully get what you mean here though as you said there are no clear definitions. But like I was saying if you see that a Black metal that doesn't fit any other category. Of course I suppose any band of any genre will always fit into avant-garde, progressive, or experimental since all of these term vary little and basically mean experimental. To be honest I don't think avant-garde really even needs the additional genre tag i.e. avant-garde black metal, I think you could just simply call anything that is avant-garde simply avant-garde.

+1 Again since Ghoul Tour 2013 imo If sukekiyo wasn't enough

But couldn't this be solved by simply considering all of the bands who you are referring to who are left out Post-black metal? Because it seems you only have a problem with the tag in the sense that people are leaving certain bands out. But like I said you or anyone really could just consider them Post-black metal yourself and who really cares if other people don't? If you think these bands sound similar and are clearly playing the same type of music.

LMAO ditto

Yes you are, Naoki's drums are most definitely legit.

+1 this band is so awesome.

Is black pig a live dist.?

As I said a little harder to explain and I suppose I didn't do a great job lol Thanks for the input @Bear Btw I think I have most of the bands you and @Kaleidoscopementioned in my playlists in the OP.

That may be the case now, but he was definitely going simply by KYO in both COCKROACH towards the end and LAST OF FATE without even using the kanji at all. Maybe it's a return to vk thing? Idk

Glad to hear. I thought I heard you mention on here before that you're a big black metal fan. Are you familiar with these sub and fusion genres? If you never have heard them I will say prepare for an amazing beautiful journey.

Haven't heard of them either I'll also have to check these guys out too. Deafheaven is another one of my favorites as well.

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Never heard of them but I'll be sure to check them out and even by their releases if I like them enough. Some of my favorites include: An Autumn for Crippled Children, Gnaw their Tongues, and Tyrant(Japan). https://gnawtheirtongues.bandcamp.com/album/genocidal-majesty Edit: wait does Wallower only have that 1 ep?

These are my favorite sub-genres and fusion-genres of Black metal. Blackgaze is a fusion of Black metal and Shoegaze, Post-black black metal is a little harder to explain as it is more experimental here's a description by @Bear And Symphonic black metal is Black metal with Symphonic instruments and melodic melodies. Who else is a fan of this truly beautiful music? Here are some playlists to better exemplify what I mean: