psychonnect_rozen 585 Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, AwesomeNyappy said: Anti Feminism were such a not-so-okay band. Everything about them screamed provocation for the sake of provocation. Or they really just admired Hitler, who knows. I thought they were cool. Except the fact they had Tax Frauding Pedo in the band for a while Edited October 8, 2019 by psychonnect_rozen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AwesomeNyappy 98 Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, psychonnect_rozen said: I thought they were cool. Except the fact they had Tax Frauding Pedo in the band for a while I....didn't even know about that, wtf. Yeah, I draw the line as nazi imagery. I don't know what is a bout vk bands and just using nazi symbols like they are some kind of joke. It's what I mean when I said they just want to provoke. They just seemed like boys who just used shokcing material for sake of being shocking, and that I just find meh. 1 psychonnect_rozen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psychonnect_rozen 585 Posted October 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, AwesomeNyappy said: I....didn't even know about that, wtf. Yeah, I draw the line as nazi imagery. I don't know what is a bout vk bands and just using nazi symbols like they are some kind of joke. It's what I mean when I said they just want to provoke. They just seemed like boys who just used shokcing material for sake of being shocking, and that I just find meh. Eh, I’m not super offended by it. But I can understand why people would be. They did have the USSR flag in a live video on a Matina compilation so that was a thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatNorthernVK 183 Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, AwesomeNyappy said: I....didn't even know about that, wtf. Yeah, I draw the line as nazi imagery. I don't know what is a bout vk bands and just using nazi symbols like they are some kind of joke. It's what I mean when I said they just want to provoke. They just seemed like boys who just used shokcing material for sake of being shocking, and that I just find meh. Edgelord-kei 1 1 v3rmillion and NICKT reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
secret_no_03 959 Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, AwesomeNyappy said: Anti Feminism were such a not-so-okay band. Everything about them screamed provocation for the sake of provocation. Or they really just admired Hitler, who knows. KENZI is just nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robkun 4184 Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) Not Japanese, but I always thought Screaming Trees was a fantastic name. I don’t really like their music though lol. Edited October 8, 2019 by robkun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astra☆ 26 Posted October 9, 2019 21 hours ago, AwesomeNyappy said: I....didn't even know about that, wtf. Yeah, I draw the line as nazi imagery. I don't know what is a bout vk bands and just using nazi symbols like they are some kind of joke. It's what I mean when I said they just want to provoke. They just seemed like boys who just used shokcing material for sake of being shocking, and that I just find meh. It's easy looking at vk bands to assume that French culture is really popular in Japan, but they're actually really into Germany over there. They admire many aspects of German culture and more or less view German people as their western counterparts. They were also military allies of Germany, so their admiration + history with them may lead to some WW2 fetishism. Of course, yes, there is probably an element of provocativeness there as well as that's a core part of early vk. 2 Miku70 and Gesu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hopefully_benign 56 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) I assume most people here know this, but the name Anti-Feminism has nothing to do with feminism. It was an ironic comment on "feminine" fashion in vk at the time. I guess feminism was one of those English loan words that kind of had a different meaning in Japan, kind of like how "bitch" means "slut" over there instead of "mean woman." Spoiler That tends to either greatly disappoint or greatly relieve western vk fans, since very online far-left and far-right types in the west both tend to see weird japanese stuff as their own little cultural oasis for some reason. As if everything has to be about our weird political shit. Drawing the line at nazi imagery seems pretty extreme. That renders like half the 70s punk canon off limits. Would you seriously refuse to listen to Siouxsie and the Banshees or The Stooges or The Ramones because they played around with the imagery once or twice? Around the 80s, real fascist bands mostly moved on to more discrete symbols like celtic crosses and kolovrats--ironically a swastika is a pretty good indication that a band isn't seriously political in any way at this point. Basically a modern satanic pentagram circa the satanic panic. anyway, 'au†ism' were pretty ahead of their time, people definitely weren't obsessed with memeing that word back in the 90s like they are now. Edited October 14, 2019 by hopefully_benign 1 2 Karma’s Hat, Miku70 and Gesu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
v3rmillion 4 Posted October 21, 2019 is there a "worst sounding band name" thread? a couple of friends were discussing that a few days ago, and the final verdict was Rentrer en Soi as for other band names that sound cool (at least to me)... the god and death stars 1 Miku70 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NICKT 147 Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, v3rmillion said: is there a "worst sounding band name" thread? a couple of friends were discussing that a few days ago, and the final verdict was Rentrer en Soi as for other band names that sound cool (at least to me)... the god and death stars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AwesomeNyappy 98 Posted November 2, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 11:10 AM, astra☆ said: It's easy looking at vk bands to assume that French culture is really popular in Japan, but they're actually really into Germany over there. They admire many aspects of German culture and more or less view German people as their western counterparts. They were also military allies of Germany, so their admiration + history with them may lead to some WW2 fetishism. Of course, yes, there is probably an element of provocativeness there as well as that's a core part of early vk. Which is insane because Japan was an ally during WWII. They should feel ashamed using that imagery. Imagine a German band using the Japanese imperial flag. Of course I don’t assume that most Japanese bands know what this means to other people, they just want to provoke or use it as “fashion”. But I would strongly urge people to not tolerate such imagery, just because people don’t know better. They need to know. If they admire German culture, they should know that German people would despise them for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keiyuh 53 Posted November 2, 2019 maNga No srsly it's an awesome band Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruri 278 Posted November 5, 2019 On 5/23/2019 at 2:00 AM, Gesu said: Always thought DIAURA sounded pretty cool (in terms of their name and their music). i'd be inclined to agree but whenever i mention DIAURA to someone (or when they see my DIAURA flyer on my wall) they almost invariably go "heh, diarrhea?" i always thought JILUKA had a nice ring to it. i feel like "Nocturnal Bloodlust" would also get you hyped to listen to them 1 Gesu reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NICKT 147 Posted November 6, 2019 How are you guys pronouncing Diaura if it's sounding like diarrhoea? da-i-a-ri-a / di-a-u-ra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gesu 1537 Posted November 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, NICKT said: How are you guys pronouncing Diaura if it's sounding like diarrhoea? da-i-a-ri-a / di-a-u-ra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
