Mamo 1172 Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) What can I say really say, both of these bands are indie vk legends, both are/were on Anarchist Records, both are 90's vk bands, both have hardcore punk metalish style, and both are basically session bands even though 妃阿甦 isn't supposed to be technically. So now the question remains who is better? 妃阿甦 Vs. ∀NTI FEMINISM Fight! Edited November 12, 2016 by sume7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patientZERO 1066 Posted November 12, 2016 ∀NTI FEMINISM was always a "stage antics" band for me. I couldn't find myself listening to their music unless it was live and even then, it took second stage to Kenzi's weird lightbulb smashing, barbwire rolling, bloody mess. Plus, I think the history behind THE PIASS is super interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted November 12, 2016 ∀NTI FEMINISM is somehow closer to my heart, with their raw hardcore punk sound, and of course their magnetic/crazy frontman Kenzi. That said, I prolly couldn't remember any of either band's songs even at gunpoint, lol. 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted November 12, 2016 Anti Feminism. Fantastic band! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ikna 1225 Posted November 12, 2016 The piass for me. Never cared much about Kenzi and his bands (though I should listen to them more). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted November 12, 2016 ∀NTI FEMINISM took this one for me. Kyousouroku is a legendary release a step above 妃阿甦, and THE PIASS hasn't done anything since 2007. ∀NTI FEMINISM is a rotating door of band members, but it's a session band. Everyone that leaves the THE PIASS does so under...less than optimal circumstances. Now that it's got members from THE EIGHT I'm expecting no new music anytime soon. 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herpes 1597 Posted November 12, 2016 a band that celebrates misogyny? shame on everyone that voted for them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted November 12, 2016 48 minutes ago, herpes said: a band that celebrates misogyny? shame on everyone that voted for them They really don't though. It's a misunderstanding. The Japanese word feminism used to mean "man who dresses feminine", and apparently Kenzi didn't like dresses and stuff in vk. He actually was questioned about the band name during their EU/US tour and he said he had no idea that feminism had a different meaning in the west. Anyway, musically I don't really care for either of them. But i've seen both live and AF are better live then Piass, so AF. 3 TomoMAD, Mamo and crossparallel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesR 119 Posted November 12, 2016 Hard one, but AF barely scrapes a win in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ikki 807 Posted November 12, 2016 TBH, I really don't care for either bands. I only went with Anti Feminism because they sometimes still release new stuff once in a blue moon. 7 hours ago, Uglymouth said: They really don't though. It's a misunderstanding. The Japanese word feminism used to mean "man who dresses feminine", and apparently Kenzi didn't like dresses and stuff in vk. He actually was questioned about the band name during their EU/US tour and he said he had no idea that feminism had a different meaning in the west. I'm really surprised that a lot of VK fans didn't know that. One of the reasons why Kenzi hated the feminism image in VK is because when Kamaitachi went majory, Toy's Factory forced him to be the feminine character in Kamaitachi. 2 crossparallel and Takadanobabaalien reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naaaaani 1173 Posted November 12, 2016 4 hours ago, herpes said: a band that celebrates misogyny? shame on everyone that voted for them Poor Kenzi, foreign lefties don't like his band's name Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mamo 1172 Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Uglymouth said: They really don't though. It's a misunderstanding. The Japanese word feminism used to mean "man who dresses feminine", and apparently Kenzi didn't like dresses and stuff in vk. He actually was questioned about the band name during their EU/US tour and he said he had no idea that feminism had a different meaning in the west. Anyway, musically I don't really care for either of them. But i've seen both live and AF are better live then Piass, so AF. Dude I didn't know this myself and I've been listening to them for years but it makes sense. Thanks for the info. It's also extra weird sense I think most vk bands just choose their names for no reason at all. Edited November 12, 2016 by sume7 1 TomoMAD reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomoMAD 256 Posted November 13, 2016 I love THE PIASS and Takayuki, the history about that band is soo dark, but!!!... although i love both bands, for me ∀NTI FEMINISM is the best, Kenzi and Takayuki are amazing! i love when Takayuki was in ∀NTI FEMINISM, in these years Kenzi keeped with life this band, but Takayuki with THE PIASS doesnt have much activity.. 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mamo 1172 Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 13 hours ago, Uglymouth said: They really don't though. It's a misunderstanding. The Japanese word feminism used to mean "man who dresses feminine", and apparently Kenzi didn't like dresses and stuff in vk. He actually was questioned about the band name during their EU/US tour and he said he had no idea that feminism had a different meaning in the west. 5 hours ago, sume7 said: Dude I didn't know this myself and I've been listening to them for years but it makes sense. Thanks for the info. It's also extra weird sense I think most vk bands just choose their names for no reason at all. I just realized that Kenzi must have changed his mind recently in regards to this opinion, because this is from 2015: Look awfully feminine to me. lol Not that I mind I'm just saying kind of contradictory to the idea that he doesn't like dresses and stuff. lol Edited November 13, 2016 by sume7 2 TomoMAD and crossparallel reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomoMAD 256 Posted November 13, 2016 10 hours ago, sume7 said: I just realized that Kenzi must have changed his mind recently in regards to this opinion, because this is from 2015: Hide contents Look awfully feminine to me. lol Not that I mind I'm just saying kind of contradictory to the idea that he doesn't like dresses and stuff. lol When i read the reason of the name, in one moment i think of that cover from the Mini-Album MAD OF PAIN xD 1 Mamo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mamo 1172 Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) Damn this is close 50/50 lol literally. M-H is clearly torn on this one. Edited November 13, 2016 by sume7 1 TomoMAD reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benio 3 Posted November 14, 2016 I'll choose ∀NTI FEMINISM as I don't want to be reminded of THE PIASS tragedies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted November 14, 2016 The Piass because their songs actually have melody and don't use scary pig guts in their album art Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomoMAD 256 Posted November 14, 2016 Finally 16-15, where is 16-16? xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mamo 1172 Posted November 14, 2016 Just wait it'll happen. lol 1 TomoMAD reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomoMAD 256 Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, sume7 said: Just wait it'll happen. lol Oh shit 15-17, maybe that couldnt happen xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mamo 1172 Posted November 17, 2016 I suppose 妃阿甦 is going to take this one. I'm disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
felipar 143 Posted July 12, 2018 On 11/12/2016 at 11:59 AM, Takadanobabaalien said: They really don't though. It's a misunderstanding. The Japanese word feminism used to mean "man who dresses feminine", and apparently Kenzi didn't like dresses and stuff in vk. He actually was questioned about the band name during their EU/US tour and he said he had no idea that feminism had a different meaning in the west. Anyway, musically I don't really care for either of them. But i've seen both live and AF are better live then Piass, so AF. Now it sounds more like a transphobic name... Anyway, AF sounds better than Piass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punk 5 Posted November 13, 2020 The meaning name Af is dangerous or madness nothing with misog.... the same problem that had Balzac in his early european tour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
