blackdoll

This band just has a different tuning then most of sadie stuff except a smudge of "bleach" and "gangster." They're also reminiscence of songs like gimmick, ever, daydream, grudge of the sorrow, deadly masquerade. Their last realease not so much. But with bops like baby go for it its basically grieving dead soul all over again with addictive riffage  

Boys just wanna have fun you.

2) This is what i was reply too in the first places btw. I was just asking you to put ur money where your mouth is rather than just leaving deathopia out there like spam. 
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I really made a topic just for this but ur reply was too good. Darn it i done broke my word 

yeah because that's an opinion your stuck on and im not repeating myself  thats what you call putting money up. So now it's diru's disco sounds like deathtopia or atleast all of Uroboros hard songs. That's not an explanation of copying hunny. That's like a hypothetical   wait, you are talking about the live video? I cleary replied to it, like it was you with deathtopia.  i clearly said deathopia or "what about" acknowledging ur evidence on that 1 song i never fully listened too.  either i'm brushing it off or acknowledging. chose one. Don't forget i mentioned starring shitty ass too. And since you bring albums don't forget you the black diamonds in their aka gangster's prototype. EDIT: fucking engrish  "just like a spider looking for my *places" 

2) This is what i was reply too in the first places btw. I was just asking you to put ur money where your mouth is rather than just leaving deathopia out there like spam. 
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I really made a topic just for this but ur reply was too good. Darn it i done broke my word 

and what was deathtopia copying? and if you don't mind dear also Sabaku no Syndrome?
 
turned out great and high key pissed the diru cult off. They tried to mask it by laughing and cracking jokes. The black diamonds? 
 
Also what was viper coping? aka the only really good MDM song along with jealousy  
 
But this whole mao is a kyo fangirl thing is null. It's like turn on the radio or listen to western brutal metal. Vocals lanes intersect. It's not about Kyo, that's just how he wants to sound at the time. One moment it's pain after pain next min it's 
 If he was a fan girl he would be a carbon copy of kyo and the thirteen and most of sadie's songs wouldn't exist. And that fact that their is even a debate about when they started coping Diru and what's original means they were never copying and that certain diru songs or albums have higher significance to people so they stretch to claim plagiarism like a cheapskate scattering to claim deductions on their taxes.
 
2038: "this new mao band is coping dir en grey" 

LMFAO Um... every single br00tal song on Uroboros. Bro the thing is I'mma fan of Sadie from beginning to end with the exception of Gangsta I like every Sadie album. But I think personally that it is undeniable that their albums COLD BLOOD, The Black Diamonds, and especially Madrigal De Maria(which no one even questions or denies except maybe you) are "LARGELY" to say the least "inspired" by DIR EN GREY. Mao copied Kyo's look from Obscure in Rosario
And people really still want to  claim that he wasn't fan girling Kyo? Smh I'm sorry but if you can't hear the similarities between the 3 albums I mentioned above and DIR EN GREY's albums Uroboros and Dum Spiro Spero, then you either must be completely tone deaf or in a state of cognitive dissonance.
 
Also Evil Mad Science isn't coping DEG at all and me or no one else even said it was. I was only talking about Sadie and specifically Sadie from 2010-2013.

and what was deathtopia copying? and if you don't mind dear also Sabaku no Syndrome?
 
turned out great and high key pissed the diru cult off. They tried to mask it by laughing and cracking jokes. The black diamonds? 
 
Also what was viper coping? aka the only really good MDM song along with jealousy  
 
But this whole mao is a kyo fangirl thing is null. It's like turn on the radio or listen to western brutal metal. Vocals lanes intersect. It's not about Kyo, that's just how he wants to sound at the time. One moment it's pain after pain next min it's 
 If he was a fan girl he would be a carbon copy of kyo and the thirteen and most of sadie's songs wouldn't exist. And that fact that their is even a debate about when they started coping Diru and what's original means they were never copying and that certain diru songs or albums have higher significance to people so they stretch to claim plagiarism like a cheapskate scattering to claim deductions on their taxes.
 
2038: "this new mao band is coping dir en grey" 

So you are expecting someone to sell you flyers with a price of 1 cent? Are you serious?

holy fuck they are good live. I would totally pay to see them.
 
This isnt deathcore though, this is death metal. Deviloof's guy and hiro cant grow or scream good/proper either and barely use pig vocals. Maybe comeback when your sober?
what's the difference though? they look black metal-ish, fleshgod apocalypse uses make up and costumes. They are picking up where The piass and Aikaryu left off. 

holy fuck they are good live. I would totally pay to see them.
 
This isnt deathcore though, this is death metal. Deviloof's guy and hiro cant grow or scream good/proper either and barely use pig vocals. Maybe comeback when your sober?
what's the difference though? they look black metal-ish, fleshgod apocalypse uses make up and costumes. They are picking up where The piass and Aikaryu left off. 

thanks for some insight. 
 
nice way to kick it off
 

Sick²  took Aicle.'s spot. Sure Aicle was more wild while Sick²  is more High-brow. They are low key the best active VK band   
 

I just want to say it took me a while to get here but, i know know vanessa is garbage and mejibray is the talented one. Genki couldnt sing and didnt scream enough + the "heavy" songs all were watered down with weakness mixed in the instrumental. I'll give them i am psychopath though, that was just right. 
 
Basically Vanessa aint touching: shuuei (whole single), Raven, Madari, Baby crossing  sabbath, Gaichuu, sadistgate, Hakuraku, apocalypse, ect. 

Oh yeah that's a good docu. Don't regret I watched this although I had to throw out a lot of those discovered bands afterwards.. I'd say Infernal Revulsion and GxSxD were the best ones presented. The others.. well.. not really worth mentioning besides the fact that they're japanese.

yeah I heard but I prefer thousand eyes better
 
more deathcore band ( and relatively a new band)
 
Transient

 
Illuminati

Not sure if it's been mentioned here but a good one I found that's neo-classic deathmetal
 
Veiled in Scarlet from their album Idealism
 

Hey anyone here like Vomit Remnants? They had a new album this year as well as a compilation of their entire discography both are available on spotify:
 

how dare you forget Aikaryu 
His growls are airy but he has the best deathcore style screams before NB and Deviloof fraud ass. Death thrash For the win followed by The piass.
they don't get the credit they deserve because teru joined flop ass versallies. but juputer has put out some decent melodic death now thanks to teru awesome compositions
 This is why "brutal" VK will be nothing but a joke because term users skip the bands with real elements and mention bands that are nullified by the likes of Paradeis and Aicle on their psychotic days . Word to @fitear1590
Someone mentioned Re:dis and yes this song actually counts. It's count you blessing level with nasty grindcore vocals
Honorable mentions 
mejibray - Gaichuu, Apocalypse tsu is the the best at death/slam vocals. 
and the only nu metal that should be mentioned is screw's 
Anyway the brutalist moment in vk belongs to the piass' black=right @4:43 was pure  deathpunk FTW
  how you say Qeddeshet is too american and nothing vk when you listen to devilloof? the hypocrisy is strong. Also replace one so called "brutal" VK band with another and you won't be able to the difference  +1 for Qeddeshet. 

It would be a shame not to mention SAVAGE a.k.a. DEPAIN ! These guys are insane live! I wish more of people would know about them! It's difficult to feel them if you haven't seen them live.  I didn't liked their music that much before but when i saw them performing i sold myself to them. lol
 
 

DILIAL - BLACK CORE
 
sounds like Sadie - Meisai in the instrumental at parts

i think i exaggerated because all i got was the part propaganda that came right after the Dimmu intro which came from Uruwashiki Hitsugi at @00:32 i think other elements of the song were use too in propa but i'm not a 100%. it's still was a attempt to get back to Metis in my opinion since its similar enough to metis song. 
 
 

I can get back to you on that, its on my ipod... i was listening to it and was like propaganda is that you?

Wow, i just checked out the Dimmu song and gosh, fuck I can't get a grasp on what Metis song is meddled with "Propaganda", though.
Agreed with everything you said. I loved the first 3 singles from Megaromania but after that it kinda flopped. 

+1 Everything Sui has done after is a cheap imitation of this great band. Like Mega's Propaganda was rip off of DIMMU BORGIR's  "Sorgens Kammer Del II" opening + a Metes Gretel song . + They had organic kotei kei unlike.............................. Sui's clean singing got better but that's irrelevant to the sound metis had. 
 along with mask are my favorites. Sui's shrieks where too orgasmic.