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On 12/27/2019 at 7:06 PM, Chell said:

Life updates: I did waste my summer break away with this and it's the best thing I could have done with it.

 

Well it seems that after getting addicted to that game called "Here we have OCD style Suzuki Tatsuhisa as hot blue haired moaning bishounen the game" now Bandori is gonna have a male cast spinoff and there's a VK guy band and the guys in this band are fucking Fukuyama Jun aka my favorite seiyuu ever + Fucking Yonaga Tsubasa... I mean....... where do I call this shit quits??? I don't wanna become a mobage addicted fujoshi in prime 2020 lol what's with my life .........

It's been like 5 years since I last did this quiz and I was kinda obsessed with it before actually becoming a psychologist and having to face its throwbacks and how I actually didn't like Jungian psychology but, hey. At least it is fun.

Johns:

49% INFJ
11% INTJ
10% INTP
5% INFP
4% ENFJ

Keys 2 Cognition: INTJ

extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************  (18.9)
limited use

introverted Sensing (Si) ****************************  (28)
average use

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ***********************************  (35.1)
good use

introverted Intuiting (Ni) *******************************  (31.2)
good use

extraverted Thinking (Te) *******************************************  (43.5)
excellent use

introverted Thinking (Ti) **********************************  (34.1)
good use

extraverted Feeling (Fe) *********************  (21.7)
limited use

introverted Feeling (Fi) ***************************  (27.9)
average use

16Personalities: INTJ-t

Mind: 21% Extraverted - 79% Introverted

Energy: 51% Intuitive - 49% Observant

Nature: 53% Thinking - 47% Feeling

Tactics: 58% judging - 42% Perceiving

Identity: 36% Assertive - 64% Turbulent

I definitely felt more comfortable answering Johns and 16Personalities so maybe these are more accurate. Somehow. Maybe. Actually, being kinda neuroatypical might be a good reason as to why my F/T axis always gets a little weird. Also, back then I consistently tested as INFP/(sometimes INTP) so I guess I'm more organized now.  All that's really happened is now I have to deal with "adult life" in a non-creative job and a rigid schedule lol.

Four Tiger & Bunny Bandai figures.  Now I have Ivan, Karina, Kotetsu, Nathan + a SD Barnaby and a Fire Emblem gacha one. Tryina snag those Antonio, Keith, Paolin and a better, non-SD Barnaby ... someday.

Also, a new vintage poozu doll which makes my collection amount to 3 now.

Wow, Emily Autumn really brings me back to 2009 when even my metalhead friends liked her. I thought she was popular. I may have listened to Misery Loves Company a lot. 

Then again in 2009 I would also listen to a lot of Meg & Dia - Monster or Kerli - Walking on Air or Vanessa Carlton - anything in Harmonium so 

I really think the last post is basically /thread but just to add 2 cents.

On 1/8/2020 at 8:51 PM, inartistic said:

Hot take:

 

The initial seed for a lot of people is seeing cute boys in crazy makeup. We need to start spamming Twitter threads with slow motion gifs of [insert guitarist here] sticking his tongue out while looking to the side.

This really might work if you wanna try that. I know a handful who'd ask at least "what's the name of the k-pop band?"

On 1/9/2020 at 7:50 AM, reminiscing2004 said:

Thinking back on all the instances where I mentioned Visual Kei to non-VK fans (usually people who listen to a wide variety of genres, or even to people who love certain subcultures of other J-music), I've had this cumulative sense that the biggest barrier to entry for people is the VOCALS.

 

I think it's easy to think the least accessible part of VK is the visuals, but that seems more like a positive draw nowadays, considering how increasingly trendy anime and Japanese cute aesthetic shit is in mainstream youth culture. I believe there is something about the general style of how VK singers sing that is kind of uncomfortable and dramatic for western rock or metal fans, who otherwise like the instrumentals.

 

Of course, there's a gradient of how guilty vocalists are of this, and I think the more normal (to western ears) vocalists tend to be the bands that do better with general music, but not vk, fans. 

 

To help think about how to better communicate this, I clicked shuffle play based on the tag 'visual kei' in my library. Sure enough, a Due le Quartz song comes up, and it has

1) seductive sounding vocal fry spoken word throughout

2) sudden ultra deep voice ad libs coming from far left and right

3) falsetto ghostly vocals

4) whispers

5) gasps

6) whistles

7) occasional gag screams

 

...on top of the normal sung vocals, which have a typical vk vibrato fetish.

 

Also, I would say bad engrish vocals sound weirder than japanese lyrics to foreigners.

You know what, I've never considered myself exactly a fan of VK although I am very much a fan of japanese music (sorry guys, not all japanese music is vk, hope it doesn't come as a letdown to some out there) and I can relate to this. Do not ask me to enjoy Due le Quartz or even Dir en Grey but boy did I enjoy vk of the AnCafe / L'arc / Miyavi / Nightmare / occasionally others? variety back in the mid 2000s. It was there on my mp3 alongside, idk, Mami Kawada or Uverworld or (insert random anison). Because... at the end of the day - and again, sorry to say - vk isn't all headbanging metalheads although it is probably how it got popular worldwide. So I only really dug deeper because my friends enjoyed vk and I wanted to at least not be a hater, and for that to happen I had to find bands with vocals I enjoyed. Occasionally I realized there was a lot of vk that wasn't what the fuck is this guy groaning just like not all metal is insufferable guttural noises.

On 1/9/2020 at 4:18 PM, nomemorial said:

That's the thing, though - I think that a lot of visual kei fandom is rooted in buying merch/etc. when that's just not how most music fans operate these days. The problem with visual kei's accessibility doesn't begin and end with their merch-selling capabilities - it starts with getting people on board in the first place and keeping them engaged. I think a lot of that is rooted in a strong internet presence.

 

As unfortunate as it is, we're not living in the era of CD sales and purchased merchandise any more - at least outside of live shows (and even then, arguable) - and while I understand the importance of those things (trust me, I spent 10 years of my life on the road as a down-on-my-luck-broke-as-a-joke DIY musician), I think we're expecting far too much of the average consumer to conflate fandom with opening one's wallet. (again, not arguing for rightness, just reality)

 

Past that, I still find that a lot of the lack of international interest in VK is that it is classically very difficult to enter and navigate as a fandom. Not only are fans classically elitist (visual kei is one of the only fandoms I've encountered where people have actively hoarded content from their faves with the explicit purpose of keeping it from others), the artists do not follow the same sort of cues that most other bands do and they don't engage their fans in the same way, either.

 

I mean really, this conversation can extend into the realm of photo-free gigs and cheki sales - things that I absolutely understand, but are likely doing more harm than good in the long-term nowadays (an easy buck to make from the aforementioned horny fan, but something that simultaneously makes these artists feel very distant and "unattainable," which just isn't sustainable in a world where the concept of the "rockstar" has basically been deconstructed entirely.) Add that to too-expensive albums and merchandise and no matter how interested one is, it requires a lot more cash and die-hard effort to support someone you enjoy. 

 

Again, most of this is being analyzed from a strictly Western point of view, but really just trying to answer the opening question. Japan clearly functions very differently from the rest of the world when it comes to music, but VK still feels even further removed. I highly doubt we'd ever see some major international renaissance focused on kote kei groups or something - stuff like that is and always will be incredibly niche - but there are a lot of bands in the game right now that have HUGE crossover potential and if paired up with the right artists would skyrocket in popularity on an international scale.

... Again, as I am not exactly a "fan of vk" in the, uh, western sense or understanding of the clique ... maybe I don't have a say in this but I do think it's a good thing it doesn't try to mingle. Because it works somehow and maybe it wouldn't work otherwise. And ngl I'm so fucking happy about it. I'm from Brazil and while most of the music I actively listen to is either Brazilian or Japanese I am exposed to a lot of American and Korean music (actually, it's probably 50/50) and I feel kind of obliged to enjoy the fandom around these types of music - I mean, how can you listen to (insert American artist here) but not know she has ties to Kim Kardashian? Similarly how can you like (insert k-pop artist here) but not vote for them obsessively in random awards number 17818? - so, ironically, I think it's a lot more natural for me to ... enjoy music that's just about the music, because I really couldn't care less about the rest so I think the lack of pressure, so to speak, in western vk fandom exactly because we know the market isn't really counting on us in any way is... a relief. Maybe I'd grow out of it altogether if it was any different. And, again, it goes back to what was being said - I'm in my late 20s, I'm not the bulk anymore, vk was the peak when I was the bulk, I don't expect it to go back to that point unless we start spamming vk dudes licking guitars on stan twitter. etc. And let's face it lol it's not about being menhera enough to enjoy vk, it's because we were mostly horny teens in the early 2000s when every kid was all about anime hair androgynous eyelined guys and those days are gone.

tl;dr I honestly think it would do more harm than good for these acts to go and try to mingle lol it's like you're the bullied menhera kid in school and now you feel like you gotta go and mingle with the other kids because some dumb adult said so, and the second you try to get in you're mocked to never return. I mean sometimes it does go well but it's 10% of the time. The other 90% you're more fucked than before because of some dumb adult who thought they knew shit. And let's face it, we're the dumb adult in this situation. Also, the menhera kid was often the right one of the bunch.  

So uh.These days I was listening to random music on Deezer based on my tastes etc. I just wanted to listen to anything. And it recommended MUCC which I've never listened a lot to but I've always thought of as a "meh OK band"? Really back in the days I LOVED this anime called Zombie Loan to which they played the ending song lol, and it was pretty cool but that's all I knew about them. I probably downloaded Gokusai some time in 2007, because it's the only album I know by name, it probably didn't catch my attention enough and that was it.

But then Deezer recommended me one song and I thought it was the dopest thing ever, for real. Then I listened to the whole album and ... I liked it. So I wanted to dig more of their discography, and then I realized it's That One Album every fan seems to dislike. Now I'm just sitting there like lol there's fifteen albums for me to listen and I ain't sure they're not going to be one let down after another. And if they're somehow still up to my tastes I am just going to get mad at my teenage self for not listening to more of them before, probably. Do I want to listen at this point? Idk bruhh

Ueh

12 hours ago, Himeaimichu said:

Visual Kei was, and pretty much always will be a counterculture movement with a cult following. Things come and go in popularity. That's been the case with Nu Metal, Eurodance, etc.

 

Part of it is the fact that Harajuku culture is dead and J-Fashion is so toned down, and a proper J-Fashion revival is possible, but no matter what, Visual Kei isn't going to be the mainstream phenomenon it barely even was at one point. Its always gonna be a niche movement with niche music tastes. Japanese people and Americans always have, and always will be mainstream taste-wise. Thats the nature of things. No use getting mad about it, because there really is nothing you can really do about it. Just enjoy Visual Kei while it's still a thing. 

8 hours ago, Disposable said:

Well there's many reasons and we've had topics or discussions about this before on the forum so if you do some digging you'll find some decent posts about it. Here's some points tho:

 

1. The Japanese have stopped investing time and money in the western market. The big tours and promotion campaigns and shit are all long gone after everyone ( most likely ) lost their money ten years ago. This situation has actually now started to change slightly with big relevant bands like DADAROMA making the exception for anime conventions for that big anime cash, and also they've been starting to wake up about the potential of streaming services like spotify despite having been dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. I don't think this will amount to a boom like it was before, but maybe at least it will normalise the situation where our existence is at least acknowledged in some roundabout way. 

 

2. Visual kei ain't doing so hot in Japan either. Now with the hiatus of R-shitei the amount of big bands is only dwindling down and the fact that successful new bands like Raid that, let's be real, are nothing to write home about musically and that would never ever get any press outside the vk fandom because it's strictly for visual kei die hard gyas only, super niche. Also the biggest media draws are getting dangerously close to retiring for good if not by their own will then by time itself. The international rock circuit is not going to recover once those legends are gone and the time is almost here, and I'm open for suggestions as to who'll replace X, GLAY and L'arc and draw like they did. 

 

3.  General culture shift is hugely in favor of music that can be done at home and then toured for fraction of the price ie. rap music and electronic music. Big spectacle pop performers aside, touring a rapper and a singer without loads of equipment is significantly cheaper and easier.  People can start realising their musical ambitions without finding other people even in the middle of nowhere; and then to this you add the reality that rock music stopped innovating for the culture years ago. Nothing came after the metalcore post-hardcore fad, and rock audiences are aging by the year while hip hop audiences span multiple demographics from all male to all female and from young to older and the underground scenes change faces around every six months. Techno is also insanely profitable where the night lives of cities around the world function around the techno economy that can cater to normies and underground diehards at the same time. People ( normies ) go to rock clubs on the weekends as a curiosity to listen to shit that's at least 20 years old and most often between 30 and 40 years old.

Uh, I certainly think OP is right in saying our tastes are coopted by modern marketing strategies online. Back then we had ICQ, forums and web circles to learn about weird Japanese cartoons abd androgynous metalhair dudes because... yahoo was not a very trustworthy web search engine actually lol. Then came Google and Facebook and Internet became mainstream and now the media conglomerates are more powerful than ever as are our tastes homogeneous. Honestly is thete a single citypop fan who did NOT find out about it through some weird youtube algorrythm that led u there through some mix of almost public domain japanese music made by a 18 year old online but by buying vinyl instead...  of. I do not know what the big idea is and I am afraid to know. 

But I feel that visual rock was always perceived as a weird uh community even in Japan. To this day there are Japanese bands that enjoy moderate success internationally (I think of One Ok Rock or Ajikan for instance) but I agree that with the decline of crazy extreme jfashion styles ie. Decora and gyaru as well as the general decline of popularity of anime aesthetic not only through anime and manga but also jrpgs and so (which as it turns out has always been an inspiration AND way of becoming popular for plenty visual rock bands) and the simultaneous ... Rise of shitty youtubers who think spewing " Japan is so weird lol " is cool and, well paired with new technologies that left then cutting edge Japanese technologies behind ... Thats all to amount for this failure of Cool Japan and, well, it really goes reeeeally deep. 

But theres a few things that come to mind that I wanted to share to add to the discussion. 

Lately I have been into an even more obscure kind of japanese fandom aka japanese seiyuu fandom lol. Theres this guy (there are definitely a few posts on this forum about his act!) called Tatsuhisa Suzuki who is himself in a rock band called OLDCODEX. It's a rather conventional indielike (because they started out indie although now theyre with Lantis) rock band with average rock songs, but the guys are great at performing ... Really passionate stuff. (Theyre good at the looking cool and otherworldly stuff that made Japan cool some decades ago tbh.) So he was voicing characters from popular (cough, with fujoshi) series for which this band performed ost songs. And so the band saw a big rise in popularity and has actually performed in Budoukan a few times. Really enthusiastic reception, pumped audience. But what had me interested is this: Their aesthetic ... Its no trashy garage metal band but not too idolish either. Theyre just at that point where it doesn't offend either crowd too much. The "Grandma probably wouldn't look too badly at anison bando" kinda thing, kinda like OOR or maybe less idolish. It's anime but not too anime, indie rock grawrhhh but Lantis ... Etc. I expected to see an audience full of fujoshi and seiota but that's not the case at all. What I saw were a bunch of youngsters getting pumped to the energy and powerful lyrics. It just looks really fun. So I realized, hey, it's not that rock is dead in Japan - sure it isn't as popular all over the world anymore but it still has a huge following of young people when the product is right (ofc Lantis... Helps). I dare say Japan is The place where poprock music still thrives and finds some good innovation. In fact my shuffle just now started playing amazarashi lol. 

But ... I think visual rock after lessening popularity definitely became a bit too "takadanobaba freakos shit" at this point. I mean the fact that everyone either grew weirdo or grew average normie and ran like a bitch from the scene (...sometimes grew traitor Miyavi cough) is not helpful at all I think. It just became too established to shock as it did in the past I guess. So it's one of those things... Revolutionary in 1800 so its just anime boys doing bl aesthetic ; ; ; but that's what I feel. And at the end of the day Japan probably realized a domestic strategy was better, so to understand this market I am not considering westerners opinions. 

Think of it... It strikes me as ... Very interesting, the case of Amai Bourypku which is one of the bands I listen to regularly when listening to vk. Their early songs beginning as Shounenki were in late 2000s/early 2010s. Those days I remember songs full of !! Emotion !! And !! Power !! Were the norm in jpop because thats what anime songs were and top popular songs worldwide were anisons etc. But at that time was starting this whole culture shift to yknow basic music produced by uninspired djs to publish on youtube fad and vk started dying down (lol being in seiyuu fandom also made me realize thats around the time Gackt Did Voice Acting bro) So their early songs were quite ... quality stuff, but at some point things probably fell short of their expectations and they disbanded kind of only to come back with a late 2010s aesthetic ... Which is precisely making trashy indieish songs pandering to problenatic girls who are probably the bulk of the vk crowd these days. I mean it's probably easier to make and sustain anyway. I realized this shit was seen in a negative light by the western vk niche but they seem to be enjoyimg some popularity in Japan with this crowd anyway. I think this might be ... Quite emblematic. Of what we actually crave, vs what Japan craves and what musicians in those places see as a way of reaching their aspirations be it money or whatever. 

In short, things are changing... I think sadly. I really love in a "always have and always will" way japanese music and these trends are being quite hurtful for, well, more complex music and Japan is falling behind because of it. 

Uhm... Maybe very far off but maybe the suggestion can help in other ways ... Back then I was a big fan of Asriel, a duo fronted by 1 woman. I know they used like anime style art covers because being an indie or "doujin artist" it was probably easier to make than highly manipulated photography. You could then try searching for similar late 0s doujin artists.

Another tip: maybe those anime style drawings you think of were in fact anime characters because it was a duo character song and you're thinking of a live where seiyuu cosplayed them or something? 

Do you remember how you came across them? Because if it was something like Gaia then someone probably knows lmaoo or else. 

On 12/6/2019 at 2:29 AM, Chell said:

Oh boy no but listen, there is this old ass mixed media aka mangaanimegamenovelband pioneer bishounen aidoru thing called Kaikan Phrase and it's finally gotten in prime nearly-2020 the "set 20 years into the future" mobage spinoff it always deserved. I am getting so addicted to a silly Mario Party Meets Ensemble Stars mobage I might as well go full weeb again for it. I am seriously prone to becoming the kind of loserface fujoshi who tweets nonstop on her private twitter to 10 followers who could Not Care Less about her amazing 16 yo 2d husbando from a random obscure japanese only game BUT worth it. 

 

There's a hot guy voiced by Suzuki Tatsuhisa!!! Also local Lone Visual Guy In An Otherwise Normal Jpoprock Band TOWA aka mai husbando from the original cast went full Gackt in those 20 years? He's the member without (legitimate?) children, looks even younger, short blond hair ....... probs living in a mansion in Malaysia or sumth ...... Anyway I am having a blast with literally no one to talk to. Why the hell am I planning to waste my summer break away with this 

Life updates: I did waste my summer break away with this and it's the best thing I could have done with it.

On 12/6/2019 at 6:09 AM, Luciphel said:

Awesome, we both found something new today. I was fine with Initial'L... initially (harhar) but to me it just seems to be getting worse and worse to the point where i still listen to new releases but the feeling isnt yay hype excitement its more "Oh no Yuuki, what are you going to do to me now?" dread. 

 

The sweet EEEEHHHHRRRRHHHHHEHEEHHHARRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE of dial up.

 

Thank you for the warm welcome

Ia the older releases for Initial L are indeed my favorite from what I have heard. The instrumental sounds more melodic I guess. 

(Also, lol'd, perfect representation of the sweet sound of dial up. )

Thanks for recommending once again! I'll be around! 

Oh boy no but listen, there is this old ass mixed media aka mangaanimegamenovelband pioneer bishounen aidoru thing called Kaikan Phrase and it's finally gotten in prime nearly-2020 the "set 20 years into the future" mobage spinoff it always deserved. I am getting so addicted to a silly Mario Party Meets Ensemble Stars mobage I might as well go full weeb again for it. I am seriously prone to becoming the kind of loserface fujoshi who tweets nonstop on her private twitter to 10 followers who could Not Care Less about her amazing 16 yo 2d husbando from a random obscure japanese only game BUT worth it. 

There's a hot guy voiced by Suzuki Tatsuhisa!!! Also local Lone Visual Guy In An Otherwise Normal Jpoprock Band TOWA aka mai husbando from the original cast went full Gackt in those 20 years? He's the member without (legitimate?) children, looks even younger, short blond hair ....... probs living in a mansion in Malaysia or sumth ...... Anyway I am having a blast with literally no one to talk to. Why the hell am I planning to waste my summer break away with this 

1 hour ago, Saga said:

Feliz aniversário!

 

Oohhh! Feliz aniversário (quase atrasado)!!

10 hours ago, ChaoticEnding said:

é aquele que uma guria fala "O mundo gira, o mundo gira, o mundo gira"? kjkkkk

ÉEEEEEEEE KKKKKKKK quanto mais eu lembro só melhora pqp   

Trying to catch up on everything I missed in almost 3 years of no vacations from uni & job and it's proving to be nearly impossible lol. The last anime I had gotten addicted to was ... Netjuu no Susume I guess.

So I am watching Bloom Into You and Free! Dive into the Future for now as they're my must watches. Tried to watch Granblue but I just felt a big "ooookk...". Also tried to watch Shoujo Kageki Revue because Takarazuka but I was pretty "ehh" too. 

5 hours ago, Luciphel said:

Update on what ive found so far! Gravity and ACME are pretty decent, nothing i could fall in love and become obsessed with but sure good enough to add to my playlists and keep an eye out for. I dont know what i was expecting from Leetspeak Monsters but what i got certainly wasnt it, was different and kinda weird. Not quite sure yet but i think i might love them xD 

Aww yes, I'm glad you liked! It's pretty amazing, isn't it? Their visual style is quite ... gritty ... but the music is actually pretty fun, I love them.

P.S. Forgot to mention, but I actually started listening to Lycaon and it's not that bad! Actually, I didn't like their popular songs but I liked a few songs from the albums you rec'd and I realized I really like Initial L's songs somehow. I really gotta listen to more of Lycaon. Thanks a bunch!!

Courtesy of My Listography:

K-music gen - Amazarashi + Miyavi + TMR + TK/Ling Tosite Sigure (been listening to it again) + Kinoko Teikoku (I miss u babay) + Gesuotome + (get ready for a bunch of hip female vocalists now) Kariya Seira + Aimer + Sayuri + Etsuko Yakushimaru + RIRI + Kavka Shishido + REOL + Daoko + BANANALEMON (SUE ME)

VK - I find myself being that person who listens to everything by グラビティ↗︎↗︎楽しさFULLVOLTAAAGE!!! and Amai Bouryoku as soon as they release it, but I do listen to others a lot too lol

K-pop - Block B + Pentagon + Seventeen + BTOB + NU'EST + MOMOLAND + TWICE + Gfriend + Orange Caramel + Laboum + Pristin + occasionally others

Others - Fall Out Boy, Oh Wonder, 70s/80s citypop, future funk stuff and other chillwave stuff that people share freely on youtube lol

I would like to say I was heavily into Vocaloid utattemita fandom in like 2010 and I do appreciate Vocaloid covers, so my musical taste is... questionable, at least.

On 11/28/2019 at 12:54 AM, hop3 said:

OLHA OS COMENTÁRIOS DE UMA ÉPOCA QUE NÃO VOLTA MAIS

"ROX :D" HASUIHAUIDSHIUDAHSIUUIDASHUI

genial ❤️

Rules kkkkkkkk 

Se tem um treco que me causa arrependimento neste sentido é não ter salvo em nenhum lugar o video daquela vez em que o Miyavi veio ao Brasil em 2008 e o Bom Dia SP fez uma matéria com os jovens na fila. Um verdadeiro clássico, rodei a internet toda procurando o vídeo e sumiu mesmo. Saudoso... 

Jornalista: e vocês sabem cantar em japonês? 

Jovens: sabemos sim oh quer ver? MAWARU MAWARU SEKAI GA MAWHJIJDKLFS FKGSRIVC IHFLFSEKVCP 

Um Clássico sério. 

36 minutes ago, Luciphel said:

Well i started typing and it kind of got out of hand so seemed apt lol

 

Will deffo check out those recommendations since we like a lot of the same stuff, have heard of some and not others so i should be able to find some samples. i think the only one of those ive listened to before was LMC way back when and i hated it but ill admit to possibly still being salty about losing Pierrot and bands change a lot with time so im not going to write them off. 

 

When it comes to Lycaon i dont like Royal Order but would say give the albums Masochist Red Circus and Camera Obscura a go if you havent already. It is pretty different to the other stuff on the list so i understand if its not for you.

 

And yes, Pierrot did do the second opening to Getbackers

I think with LMC ... there's the "we are annoying boys trying to create ok music" vibes for sure.  I kinda like it but it's really not as much for the music as it is for the aesthetics and the fun of it lol. Try replacing that for SCREW for a safer approach in terms of "2000s acts that disbanded but I liked". Oh, and Shounenki instead of Amai Bouryoku definitely ; ; ; .

Edit: wow, I just went to check and I could swear LMC had ceased activities around the same time as SCREW but turns out they're just kinda mia and occasionally doing lives in countries I don't live in. Dumb me lol.

Wow, I'm honestly Shocked at how ... prolific ... Lycaon was. I thought they were just a kinda big name band but they had like one release every week for almost ten years. I literally had no idea (and it's apparently the same for Initial'L). It's probably difficult to not like Anything in their discography lol. Thanks a lot! I'm gonna check them out  

Ohh. I loved all of that anime's songs so I recognized it. (Back in 2005, when all I listened to were anime songs and I didn't spend my money in bands at all, those were the days lol)

Hello, welcome there! 

I came just because I appreciate how you titled the topic but it seems that our tastes are actually similar! Some of my favorite artists back in the days were also Nightmare, TMR and Ancafe. Never listened to Pierrot much but I reckon they had a Getbackers song which was My Jam 😁 ia on the screamo stuff. 

I am also very much into Neverland, Purple Stone and Codomo Dragon and occasionally listen to Royz, Fest Vainqueur, ViViD and Pentagon. Not super familiar with the others but Lycaon isn't a name I particularly like so now I am compelled to listening to their older stuff and see if it strikes my fancy. 

If I may recommend ... Some VK Stuff I enjoy nowadays aside from the aforementioned are ACME, Leetspeak Monsters, Amai Bouryoku (tbh I only listen to it because I miss Shounenki This Badly), Gremlins (bc Nightmare), Gravity and Vivarush. Still missing Moran, LMC, Gigamous, CLOWD and kannivalism. I will get over it someday but not soon tbh lol 

Anyway, thank you for reading me rambling and welcome there!! 😁 

I was recently reminded of how much I liked Genkai Haretsu and it's one of those things I remember every 3 years and wonder if it really was that good and am always reminded that yes it was, So I am listening to all of Psyence this time and yeah ... it blows. I am his newest fan and this is my newest favorite album  

2 hours ago, hop3 said:

Eu comecei com Nightmare, ahaha! (obviamente Death Note etc)
Eu curti as músicas e pensei "hmmm, será que no Japão eles fazem músicas sem ser pra anime?" HSUAIHDIUASDHUASD
Peguei o "the WORLD Ruler" e ouvi em loop infinitas vezes, aí começou a desgraça... sahuidhiausdh ❤️

 HAHAH eu te entendo tantooo!! Eu já conhecia vk e tinha amigos que adoravam Malice Mizer, Gackt (o maldito Vanilla.mp3 do MSN plus), X, L'Arc etc mas não curtia muito além de umas 2 ou 3 músicas antes de me apaixonar por Nightmare. Uma amiga estava curtindo Death Note na mesma época, a gente começou a trocar figurinhas e quando nos demos conta já tínhamos virado conhecedoras não só das músicas obscuras como também dos varieties e entrevistas hahah bons tempos!

Apesar de que naquela época eu adorava Nightmare mas não escutava lançadas de vk em geral... era muito trabalhoso evitar o que não era simplesmente moleques berrando tentando ser coolzões... Pra mim realmente houve uma melhora na qualidade técnica das bandas independentes em geral e também houve uma facilidade em acessar as músicas por meio do youtube e tal, em comparação a baixar na internet discada.

I feel u sm brah, I actually decided to cosplay as Amy Rose this year even though I haven't really played a Sonic game in ages for precisely this reason. Iirc my first online nickname was actually Amy Rose lol it's something that never fails to bring me a sense of familiarity and joy as well. I'm not good with words but do I get what you mean. 

Bem vindo ~ ♥ 

Eu só era fã Mesmo na adolescência de Nightmare e Miyavi e eventualmente escutava coisa ou outra de outros artistas, minha paixão por vk começou meio tarde então sou super deslocada aqui. Mas boas vindas pelo que vale hahah 

I've been listening to a lot of songs by a hip 19 year old japanese guy and enjoying it which is really sayin a lot about me