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To be fair, and no offense at all; but I'm not entirely sure if anyone looking to be in a band would want to be the back up to you and a friend, and be tasked with writing all of the material. If I were to be doing something like that, I would expect heavy prominence in the band and not a "backup".

reviving this because lol. anyway I'm pretty much giving up on singing.... so i'll stick to guitar... I'm not to confident with lead parts, but with extra time and care I can probably pull it off. I really want to do something with this... so like.... who ever is still interested.... like... message me. yeah~

omg.
 
How to do the music thing:
You play the thing, get better at the thing, be inspired by whatever thing you want, and do your thing.
How to handle not liking a thing:
Don't listen to or care about the thing.
 
There's really sh*tty japanese musicians, there's really sh*tty American musicians, Candadian musicians, Chinese musicians, cat musicians and dog musicians. Just like when it comes to races, there's shitty people in every country, every state, every city, every race, but there's good people too.
Sure, the bands might not be good, but i'm pretty sure the japanese bands weren't that great when they first started out either. NEWS FLASH: NO ONE IS JUST BORN WITH IT, IT'S NOT MAYBELLINE. Unfortunately, the STYLE (visually) of Visual kei that we see now and influences most foreigners to be "VK" is more popular in Japan, and I feel that's the only thing one really needs to define as "VK" or "VK inspired" since music from the visual kei scene (as mentioned before) is composed of several different mainstream and not so mainstream genres. Literally any popular music genre is an evolved form of another genre (which is probably evolved from another and another and another....), nothing is original. There's not a single note or beat that hasn't been created, played, and over used in music (PERIOD.) 
I think the main problem (which was dully mentioned early) is that foreign vk inspired musicians are young, inexperienced, and simply rushing in to things. But at least they have something to look up to.
You don't have to be any race to do music. Music is about expression and just because you don't like the way someone wrote their lyrics doesn't mean everyone else is going to follow in suit.
And yes, don't you dare say it's not because of this reason: Foreign fans are set on the belief that if they're not Japanese it's not worth my time and it sucks. Even if the band is good. I've known a few good western vk-influenced bands that sounds 10 times better than indie shit in the vk scene in japan, but no one looks at them twice because they're not Japanese.
I remember reading an interview from Jimi (Originally in chemical pictures) and he had stated that the Japanese fanbase were very open to him and very excited and welcoming, most of the hate mail he had received was from foreigners!
I will gladly search to the end of the earth and back for that link.... actually no...
I'll find it now.
(30 min searching frenzy....)
 
LOOK
 
and in case you don't want to read through the whole interview to find it:
 
Jimi: I don't get any criticism anymore (or at least I don't see them!) but in over three years I have had only one Japanese person say anything even remotely mean. I got a message on my old Chemical Pictures Japanese blog from a Japanese girl that said, “Go back to your country!” which is just laughable, harmless xenophobia. The vast majority of criticism I received was from western people. They said I was ugly, they said I was an idiot or a jerk, they were all-in-all highly against the idea of a non-Japanese in a Japanese band. The truth is that I am not the first, not by a long shot. Ben from the old Chaos System, the brothers from MONKEY MAJIK, Shen from Def Tech, and Jero. So there's precedence. Why was it different when it was visual kei, and a more visible visual kei band?
 
 
So that's what I think. Jimi is actually a good musician though, but even so it was because he wasn't Japanese that a lot of foreigners didn't accept him :/ 

and i swear to lord jeebus if you say this irrelevant you are incorrect because it so is. >:'[


this post is intended for heated debate and not arguing or insults so please keep it mature <3
 
Edit: On a side note about vocal talent, there's so many aspects on how to judge whether or not someone is a talented singer or not. I've heard vocalists that can hit amazing ranges and hold solid notes while flawlessly staying in key, on the technical side, they're a great vocalist, then you have the ones who just go balls out and sing whatever and hope they hit one correct note, and some people dig that uncontrolled sound (which a lot of vk bands have, sorry not sorry), then you have the medium of someone who has a pretty good technique, stamina, and emotion etc etc. and then you get in to actual vocal styles.... i think it's all based on personal preference... for the most part.

I'll take the bait and debate with you. I posit that there are, in fact, no shitty dog artists. Prove me wrong, punk.

keep up the good werrrrk

Hope you enjoy XD
 

Like i said in the description of the video, is you watch my videos, you know that my screams are horrible XD
 
Anyways, i hope you enjoy this ^^
 

Oh is there room for me? Here's what I can do:
 
• Drums (live and programmed)
• Bass
• Programming Keyboards
• Guitar
• Singing (I don't speak Japanese but I could try to sing it phoenetically) 
• Screaming/Growling
 
Here are some short samples (I played all the instruments & did the vocals): 
 
http://www.mediafire.com/download/s16ebkyplslc461/Stridersubzero_music_samples.zip

It was Periphery but now it has spread out to Periphery, Crossfaith, TesseracT, Pierce the Veil, Parkway Drive, and Royz

Okay I am back! sorry that I haven't replied as soon as I should have. AND WOW TWO NEW PEOPLE ON HERE EH? and I think I will play guitar and do vocals as needed. I can do deep growls but for like... higher pitches I'm still working on that technique. .___. Also if you're curious....


really crappy guitar stuff but meh

This is what I know of Blue by crossfaith, however I was tuned to dropped c# here so I am playing it in a different key obviously, but if it was tuned to the proper tuning that would be the fingering. eh w/e 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymc1CG9bXaI
 
And uhm... My singing voice.... it's not really a vk or jrock related song..... but here.
 
https://soundcloud.com/tomina-staeger/jarofhearts
 
and for screams and stuff.... I guess listen to this song... I did the vocals all the way through this song including the deeper growls, however.... the other vocals they added in there by another guy ... they did that after I left the band and I don't particularly agree with it. but whatever. 8'D here it is anyway.
 
https://soundcloud.com/zenbuofficial/zenbu-yakusoku
 
also ps the mixing on the vocals they did were really poopy. I love that I sound like I'm singing in a bathroom *0*

If I may butt in. I'm not really playing any instruments but if you need some lyrical material I could drop you a few things. If you want of course.

We're a kote kei/industrial gothic metal fusion project we're online based now, forming an actual band is difficult and this is more of a way to gain experience without as much hassle.
 
if you're interested here's our facebook page:
 
https://www.facebook.com/Altermalice.Official?fref=ts
 
https://www.facebook.com/AltermaliceNero
 
contact me through facebook! its nice to have many friendds in the music scene 

Hi,
Been here for like 2 years, but not active.

What about a test? We can play a basic song like...The World by Nightmare or another song XD

YOUR BAND IS IMPRESSIVE. I LIKE. VERY MUCH SO. idc if it's in portuguese.... I listen to Japanese music lol. I mean... I know basic Japanese but I couldn't hold a complex conversation for the life of me let alone understand lyrics with out looking them up. SO. idk. I like music from everywhere, not just Japan <3

Jet Set Gypsies has some potential; I do agree the singer sounds better in English or his native language (if it's not English). I don't think there's anything wrong with non-Japanese bands taking inspiration from Visual Kei. (I mean... remember? Visual Kei was inspired by American/British music!) But when they sing in Japanese, it annoys me, personally. Usually artists sound better when they sing in their native language.

Ahn...sure, but my screams aren't that good XD
 
Here's my Lustknot. - Angelus cover. 
 

 
I don't have any guitar video recorded ):
 
And, sure, just tell me what to record. I'll start to record vocal covers with videos.

Yo
 
Ahn, i guess its easier to talk in a chat...here's my FB xD
 
https://www.facebook.com/tanaka.hideki1

hiiiii * creepy smile
I'm a keyboardist *wink wink nudge nudge

Wow you have an awesome voice! as you say your screams might need some work but they aren't bad. You can hit high notes really well too
I play bass if anyone's interested

from my 21st bday that just passed recently.
YAY ME.
also hi im not dead (yet)

Well, being able to go to Otakon a few years back was pure luck...I don't have the time or money anymore for things like that...sucks being an adult with lots of bills...
I've pretty much always used the net since coming back from Japan to buy all my music stuff.

I... didn't realize how many bands were out there..... Honestly... I feel like there are people who can pull off the vk look, or at least a good inspired look overseas, I think the main problem is a lot of bands that form just want to look cool and be like the bands they listen to, but don't really know their instruments. Plus playing that kind of music... or under that genre, it's difficult to find people who want to as well. For example metalcore it's easy to find guitarists and vocalists, hell everyone and their mom does metalcore vocals. I've been in bands before, but i just feel if the right musicians got together there could be a successful decent sounding vk inspired band out there somewhere. .___.