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Clean install of Ubuntu, upgrading to Trust Tahr now!

I just had to save these epic posts from a google-cached version of TW.net.

Where's the like button >O

I personally think the greatest solution to this age-old problem, is not to force "leechers" (whatever the hell that actually means - we're all leeching) to step into the light and give thanks to you mighty people that rip releases, but to instead, force everyone to be anonymous. If you upload/share a file - it would not be associated with an account, but only the details of the release/quality. No comments. No thanks button. A simple link to download.
 
This whole "give credit where credit is due" on this matter is almost sickening. The purpose of sharing music here is just that: sharing; turn people on to new music that they might have never come across or heard before.

This is true, it is possible to a greater degree within a smaller community. But we're not a community consisting of just ~40 members. We have thousands of members (though it's debatable as to how many of them are actually "active" - the point still stands). I updated my post.
 
Public shaming should never be a solution to anything. It's the very thing I would never condone or promote our community to do. Most of you remember Batsu from a few years ago - while it was amusing at times, it was ultimately annoying, and painted the whole forum as a forum of dicks (quite literally at times). It's also listed under every one of the cons section of the above mentioned solutions.

In reality this thread was meaningless with the original post. All four of the points you listed, we have already done - as Zess has pointed out in a previous post.
 
There is never going to be a "true" solution to this where everyone can have their cake and eat it. There will always be disgruntled people. There will always be disagreements. Nothing that has been said, or ever will be said about this is new. Every method has been tried (and I'm not just talking about MH and it's community - but all "file sharing" services/websites).
 
I have been around a lot of forums that have tried everything under the sun to "battle" this. They have all failed - us included. And you know what? They have all shut down because of the tension, and the bickering, and the fighting between it's members over this very issue. The very thing that brought them all together, is the very thing that tore them to pieces in the end.
 
Let's go over each of the proposed solutions from the users that have replied here.
 
 
Leeching is "condoned"
Premise:
Users must have X amount of posts. Users must be active within Y amount of days/weeks/months/years. Pros:
There is a sense of "community" and "respect" between members and the files they share Cons:
The notion of respect and community is a false pretense. All it takes is one person to break one of the golden rules to bring out the pitchforks and torches. Feels highly controlled. Users will be afraid to break one of said rules in fear of being "punished". There is too much "criteria" to meet for such a simple act - clicking a link to download a file  
Leechers should feel grateful; and if they aren't, should they be 'forced' to
Premise:
Can be used in combination with the above: "Leeching is condoned" Users must give "thanks" to uploaders to retrieve link. Pros:
Uploaders get a sense of gratitude for their "work" Cons:
Same as the above; just with one more "golden" rule to follow/jump through.  
Leechers should credit the uploaders
Premise:
Can be used in combination with the above: "Leeching in condoned" and "Leechers should feel grateful" Users can share links they find made by uploaders, but must credit said uploaders as the source Pros:
Uploaders get a sense of gratitude for their "work" They may gain popularity within the small knit j-music community Cons:
Same as the above; just with yet one more "golden" rule to follow/jump through. Must "police" other websites to make sure they're following OUR rules. This is wrong on many levels, as we are then strong-arming other websites. 99.9% of the time, there is absolutely nothing we can do if a link is not given it's due credit People feel offended when they find their uploads elsewhere without credit. Creates unneeded hate within the community Has actually led to racism (think of how you feel when you see the words "Brazilian J-Rock Blog"). This shit has to stop.  
Uploads should not be re-posted elsewhere
Premise:
Can be used in combination with the above: "Leeching in condoned", "Leechers should feel grateful", and "Leechers should credit the uploaders" Uploads are exclusive to the community, and should not be shared or posted elsewhere On small occasions you may do so with the permission of the uploader Pros:
Uploaders have a sense of security, knowing how, when, and who their uploads are being shared with. Cons:
Can be achievable within smaller, close-knit communities. Requires a lot of work to sustain. Ultimately, this is the "utopia" of the internet. It's a very nice image to dream of, but will never be reality. Goes against the very foundation of what the internet is. Causes uploaders to profile other members of the community, and will create instances of people not sharing files to others simply because they don't like them. Again, there is absolutely no way for us to police other websites when (not if) we find a file has been shared outside of the community.  
I have seen all of this happen many times over. Champ, and any of the other staff members, and even some of you users reading this now, can vouch for this. Do any of these solutions seem like a fix to anything?

This is true, it is possible to a greater degree within a smaller community. But we're not a community consisting of just ~40 members. We have thousands of members (though it's debatable as to how many of them are actually "active" - the point still stands). I updated my post.
 
Public shaming should never be a solution to anything. It's the very thing I would never condone or promote our community to do. Most of you remember Batsu from a few years ago - while it was amusing at times, it was ultimately annoying, and painted the whole forum as a forum of dicks (quite literally at times). It's also listed under every one of the cons section of the above mentioned solutions.

My 2014 April desktop screenshot. Doing nothing but listening to some heavy stuff.
I have switched to using a PC with 1920*1080 resolution from now on.

I'm a dog lover. I'm outta here.

Basically, the admins and mods discussed and decided to turn it into a Cat Café forum, what with growing concerns over the US cracking down on downloads.

This is the end of Monochrome Heaven and the beginning of a new forum, where we discuss cats, pets, coffee, pies and the like.
I'm sure the mods have already started feeding old uploads and dead links to their CATs to get rid of the evidence.

Whats wrong with the forum?
I was in download section amd it said 貓 which means cat in chinese,
then i realize its actually shinjitai for 猫, then I see forum
name is Cat...wtf lol?

Then i see all admin is cat5-cat9 why did you do this to forum?
Anyone?

That's genius! Though I suspect the number of uploaders to be cut in half, it might be worth it

I personally think the greatest solution to this age-old problem, is not to force "leechers" (whatever the hell that actually means - we're all leeching) to step into the light and give thanks to you mighty people that rip releases, but to instead, force everyone to be anonymous. If you upload/share a file - it would not be associated with an account, but only the details of the release/quality. No comments. No thanks button. A simple link to download.
 
This whole "give credit where credit is due" on this matter is almost sickening. The purpose of sharing music here is just that: sharing; turn people on to new music that they might have never come across or heard before.

I personally think the greatest solution to this age-old problem, is not to force "leechers" (whatever the hell that actually means - we're all leeching) to step into the light and give thanks to you mighty people that rip releases, but to instead, force everyone to be anonymous. If you upload/share a file - it would not be associated with an account, but only the details of the release/quality. No comments. No thanks button. A simple link to download.
 
This whole "give credit where credit is due" on this matter is almost sickening. The purpose of sharing music here is just that: sharing; turn people on to new music that they might have never come across or heard before.

I personally think the greatest solution to this age-old problem, is not to force "leechers" (whatever the hell that actually means - we're all leeching) to step into the light and give thanks to you mighty people that rip releases, but to instead, force everyone to be anonymous. If you upload/share a file - it would not be associated with an account, but only the details of the release/quality. No comments. No thanks button. A simple link to download.
 
This whole "give credit where credit is due" on this matter is almost sickening. The purpose of sharing music here is just that: sharing; turn people on to new music that they might have never come across or heard before.

I personally think the greatest solution to this age-old problem, is not to force "leechers" (whatever the hell that actually means - we're all leeching) to step into the light and give thanks to you mighty people that rip releases, but to instead, force everyone to be anonymous. If you upload/share a file - it would not be associated with an account, but only the details of the release/quality. No comments. No thanks button. A simple link to download.
 
This whole "give credit where credit is due" on this matter is almost sickening. The purpose of sharing music here is just that: sharing; turn people on to new music that they might have never come across or heard before.

Oh, nice! I wish I was more familiar with using Linux. Probably, what is keeping me from ditching Windows is foobar2000. P:
But Windows works perfectly so far I have used it as a PHP development environment, though.
I have used so many Linux distros several times before, but I end up switching back to Windows each time eventually. =w=;;
Anyway, I'll give Linux a try again once I'm better at programming since it seems to be programmers friendly more than Windows.
 
Lately, I've been so into learning JavaScript. It's fun! XD
Here is where I code and see how it works.
 

 
Edit: Trying to code a Rock-Paper-Scissors game. 8D
 

It's a virtual host manager (that I aptly called Kappa) I wrote for *nix to save myself from having to open the terminal and creating new virtual host files every time I needed to set up a local website.
 
I'm impressed that you picked up on the fact that it's a Kappa! It's a temporary icon (sprite is from a game) until I make a new one.
 

It's a virtual host manager (that I aptly called Kappa) I wrote for *nix to save myself from having to open the terminal and creating new virtual host files every time I needed to set up a local website.
 
I'm impressed that you picked up on the fact that it's a Kappa! It's a temporary icon (sprite is from a game) until I make a new one.
 

^ What is dat Kappa icon? ROFL!

Desktop at work

None taken, and we know. Compared to what we have planned this is nothing and can't be stacked up against the likes of JaME or other sites.
 
So far its only two people working on the development of this, which is a lot for such a large project. Each component of the website is custom built specifically to meet our needs. This isn't just a quickly thrown up WordPress site with some pages on it.
 

 
Our focus right now is on band members. Once that's complete, we'll move on to discographies and then lyrics.
 
Those are the three elements that make up the beef of this website (bands, band members/artists, and discographies). After all three are done, we'll revisit each and spice them up with features and added information.
 
We're completely open to hearing everyone's feedback on anything and everything. It's primarily why we decided to push the website open even though there's really not much to show right now. We want the community to get involved in every aspect of the project.

So how long will it take for non-VK fans or fans interested at least equally in the music besides pictures, to consider this site? No offense, but apart from a few band pictures there's nothing really worth looking at in this.

So I've decided to put some of my cartoons here.
Any feedback is appreciated! I'm just starting out so I'm still figuring out how to use things.
 
Here's my deviantart:
 
http://dansukyoungyun.deviantart.com/gallery/
 
And to start things off a card I made for myself on my birthday.