Question about BAISER

[Cantavanda 141]

BAISER is a VK band, it's also a French word.

The French word has two meanings.

"Je te donne un baiser" would mean I give you a kiss

A "baiser" is a "kiss".

But the verb baiser.... is quite something different.

"Je vais te baiser", means I will fuck you.

"Baiser" is "fucking".

 

Now my question about the band.

WHICH OF THE TWO IS IT??

Have they said it publicly?

 

Baiser is quite the romantic VK wave band like LAREINE and SHANA, so kissing would be logical in that way.

 

But VK loves shocking, and the most romantic innocent KAMIJO made a band called "New Sodmy", referencing this extreme sex act, sodomy.

So it's a possibility they meant the sex to shock and provoke.

 

Anyone can help me out?

Edited November 20, 2018 by Cantavanda

[Jigsaw9 6783]

They have a song/single called "Kuchizuke" which means "kiss", but it might just be coincidence (but I think yeah the kissing thing would be the more romantic scenario here, haha). I'm not aware whether they ever publicly said what was the inspiration/origin of their name.

Edited November 20, 2018 by Jigsaw9

[libertine 125]

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Edited December 12, 2019 by libertine

[Peace Heavy mk II 7200]

je suis excité

[suji 8317]

i guess labaiser means "the fucking" 💦💦💦

[Arkady 396]

Wait,  wasn't New Sodmy's name Kamijo's way of coming out in a not very subtle way?

[Cantavanda 141]

18 minutes ago, Arkady said:

Wait,  wasn't New Sodmy's name Kamijo's way of coming out in a not very subtle way?

Sodomy also consists of BDSM sex, so not just gay sex.

IDK, I haven't really talked or looked up discussions of the name. I just think "sodmy" means "sodomy" which is probably an artistic mispelling cus they have a song called "are you sodomy?" and "white lie" single cover has KAMIJO tied up, which is a BDSM kind.

Luckily most songs don't have any sex in the lyrics, which made me to believe the band name was just for shock, not a reocurring theme.

Edited November 20, 2018 by Cantavanda

[Cantavanda 141]

Also I don't listen AT ALL to BAISER even though I want to give them a chance, they seem to be my style since they're similar to LAREINE and SHAZNA. Romantic kei is my favourite VK genre. I will try to listen soon. But if the band name litirally means "fucking" it's a big turn-off since the half of my country (Belgium) speaks French lol. Also I noticed there's no BAISER topic at all in this subforum so any big fans, go on your way!

[nekkichi 6043]

5 hours ago, Arkady said:

Wait,  wasn't New Sodmy's name Kamijo's way of coming out in a not very subtle way?

it's a broad term, everything from basic oral to furry to (depending on whose definition you're looking for) secx outside of wedlock can be a reverse sodomian expedition

 

4 hours ago, Cantavanda said:

Also I don't listen AT ALL to BAISER even though I want to give them a chance, they seem to be my style since they're similar to LAREINE and SHAZNA. Romantic kei is my favourite VK genre. I will try to listen soon. But if the band name litirally means "fucking" it's a big turn-off since the half of my country (Belgium) speaks French lol.

I think they sort of conveniently played out on the implied double-meaning since their first album was more industrial and hard sounding and their lives probably had a lot of ｙａｏｉ　ｉｎｎｕｅｎｄｏ going on,

 

but since they went softer and more mainstream with the sound on the subsequent releases and lightened up their looks from PVC to pastel-PVC, it sort of worked out idk

 

4 hours ago, Cantavanda said:

Also I noticed there's no BAISER topic at all in this subforum so any big fans, go on your way!

ya there's a gap in threads for bands from ~pre-2010 on the current MH unless they have legacy stans lurking around to create those discussions so idk it's up to you

Edited November 21, 2018 by nekkichi