DRUGS

[Mei 276]

hey

what do u think about them? why do u think ppl take ithem? any personal experience?

in my opinion drugs r the worse thing in the world, they're ruining my life. they r so damn addictive so i can understand ppl who take them, i dont have a pre-judgement towards these; but still i dont get why is there such a wicked market out there... i mean, i know it's too profitable for those who sell them, but still. i take cocaine and i cant leave it. what made me take them was my personality disorder (bad behaviour disorder or whatever it's called), im easily convinceable and auto-destructive that the first time i've tried them i obviously couldnt say no.

also, im too afraid of telling my psychiatrist i take them. like, i dont want more pills as long as they're sedatives or for humour.

worst thing is that it's so easy for me to find them: 1. there's a bar called "Génesis" that for 100$ they give u a paper 2. i have a "kitchen" one block away from my house, and i live in one of the best neighbourhoods in buenos aires... 3. i know an escort that gives me for free each time i get laid to her, she doesnt even charge me for the sex. is there any way out?

so, what's your opinion?

[Jigsaw9 6783]

Well, I can't really see why taking drugs is so appealing (i.e. why people even start trying them), given their addictive nature, side effects, etc... I'm personally like "whatever, everyone ruins themselves if they want to", but don't really understand the whole "thing" of it.

Never took drugs, and never will. There are lots of other stuff that can give you a sense of high, e.g. music, sex, etc.

[Furik 832]

Are we talking about illegal or prescription drugs here? It's hard to tell.

[Mei 276]

illegal, i said i took cocaine, though u can be addicted to prescribed meds too. im addicted to prescribed pills too

[D.L.S 11]

HHAHAA you said escort. That's a hooker! Anyway. That weed stuff is okay. Most other stuff is a no no. Just don't addicted to meth like most of Fresno.

[Yasupon 18]

There's two things that concern me regarding drugs, and one of them is the user, and the other is the drug itself, obviously.

I don't really care if people take drugs when they don't seem like a showoff about it. I've had friends / acquaintances both IRL and online who would seemingly brag about getting high like it's just so cool, and I found it to be quite annoying.

I'm just curious how many people here support the legalization of marijuana?

[Zeus 7997]

I don't like lumping drugs into one category. There are some drugs that are just worse for you than others. Some of them are just stigmatized but there's nothing super destructive about them and there are others that will just fuck you up for life.

I recreationally enjoy some. Alcohol's a drug. Weed's a drug. Cigarettes are drugs (DON'T YOU ARGUE WITH ME TOBACCO IS LIKE WEED EXCEPT IT'S BROWN NOT GREEN). These are things that won't totally screw you over just once or twice although they will if you're irresponsible. Things like heroin, meth, cocaine, bath salts...yeah those are things that I would stay away from. At my university, a kid tweaked on bath salts and ran headlong into bulletproof glass. He's short an eye and ear now. Not even once my friends, not even once.

But to be honest, there aren't that many drugs that will screw you up for life. Most have stigmas because of becoming synonymous with counterculture and hippies. They tend to be illegal "just because". Can you tell me a good reason why LSD or MDMA is illegal? Not really, because there isn't a good one.

Note I'm not counting the ones that people cook up when they can't get their hands on the real deal. Desomorphine? FUCK NO.

So I'm sorry that you've gotten hooked on something that's that destructive for you. Knowing is the first step. Now you've just got to take the steps to get out of there.

[LIDL 692]

I enjoyed some but not as far as pills and coke,

just some good liquor and blunt to chill.

[The Bread Wolf 231]

Can you tell me a good reason why LSD or MDMA is illegal?

LSD can cause trips so severely bad that it triggers a psychological disorder like schizophrenia. And this isn't the same thing as with weed, because that as well can trigger psychological disorders but only if they're dormant. I think a drug's potentiality to cause psychological issues is a pretty good reason to not legalize it, don't you think?

Not all reasons are always related to it's addictiveness.

[Mei 276]

^ right, i know the lsd related to schyzo. anyway i've tried it once or twice but it's not addictive imo o.o

u also have flashbacks

[The Bread Wolf 231]

^ That's the point. LSD is not addictive at all. So that can't be used as an argument against the legalization of LSD. But it's potential to trigger a psychological disorder can.

[Yasupon 18]

^ Seems like a good enough reason.

But yeah I support the legalization of marijuana, not much else. Even cigarettes is a no for me.

[Guest]

only drug who is ok... is "marijuana" it's only addicted because of the tabbaco.

I think people can't stop with it, it's because why would you?.. because it's nice to feel relax and to shit down with your friends. So why not?

I really love the smell of marijuana

And I'm in love with alcohol. it's so delicious.. but can really damage your body. even faster as Cigarettes or marijuana ever can do.

But yeah.. a to high shot of marijuana can lay your down too.. but if you don't smoke to fast like a cigarette it's probably ok.

And one thing people should never forget.

Whatever you use.. except Cigarettes be sure there is someone around you.

Because there should be always someone around you who can call the emergency line. in case it goes wrong.

Or if you will get somehow a bad trip or if you get a panic attack or something.

^ and that's also the reason why so many drugs are forbidden now.

because some people fuckted up to jump out of a window etc.

And there where no friends around who could avoid that something like that did happen.

For everyone who use...

Keep your head up.

If you be a real addict try to find help... <- EVEN if you need to drink lot's of alcohol everyday.

Don't rune your fucking life with taking drugs, there are so many more beautiful things in this SHIT life.

Drugs really doesn't make it any better.

And me..

I've smoked marijuana but after a while it just gets so damn boring.

Of course I still drink alcohol but not that often.

I smoke... but.. not everyday.

ROCK'N'ROLL!!!~~

[The Bread Wolf 231]

I don't support the legalization of any drug. To be honest, I think we should ban all the now legal drugs as well. This is because I'm boring.

No, seriously. My argument is that people are already misusing the existing legal drugs, meaning mostly alcohol. So why give them more drugs they can misuse? It's like giving more toys to a child that keeps breaking them for fun.

[Yasupon 18]

I don't support the legalization of any drug. To be honest, I think we should ban all the now legal drugs as well. This is because I'm boring.

No, seriously. My argument is that people are already misusing the existing legal drugs, meaning mostly alcohol. So why give them more drugs they can misuse? It's like giving more toys to a child that keeps breaking them for fun.

That's a perfectly understandable opinion.

I wouldn't take the risk of developing heart, lung or liver problems (etc) from smoking or drinking, it's just not worth it. I also can't stand alcoholics who are all like "look at me i'm so drunk!", but I mentioned that already. If someone gets high or drunk they should just keep it to themselves.

[Guest]

yeah.. but what about so many food? food addiction?

Burger King, Mac Donalt, KFC etc.

Then we should ban that too.

Because fast food is bad for ya health.

[Yasupon 18]

I don't think she was talking about banning what we already have, but preventing more drugs from being legalized, but idk.

As for me I don't mind the legalization of cigarettes and alcohol because a person should have the right to fuck up their bodies if they want to, but I believe it should be more looked down upon because of the overall health risks.

[Guest]

then it's still..

fast food... they should ban it.

of course you can get fat of healthy food easy too. but that's lesser bad as from fast food.

._. and they should ban crustily too! and Kelloggs.. to delicious but so man calories (>_<)

[Yasupon 18]

Banning fast food is just pointless and wouldn't accomplish anything at all. All it would do is piss everyone off, and those who love fast food restaurants can still go to other restaurants, or buy what they need at a supermarket or just make food at home.

..but now we're getting a little off topic.

[miyuu 40]

but you can eat food and still be a lovely person. (plus eating disorders are off topic and you can have them with healthy food too.)

alchohol and drug addiction turn people to assholes that can hurt people around them.

smoke affects the person next to you too. so it's not just about you.

anyway any addiction gives less freedom in your life.

anything that you can't live without.

it's so wonderful, until you want to stop and you can't

[Ito 2438]

First off I will say I am mostly against drug use. I have not and will never use any illegal drugs. I don't need that shit to have fun/mellow out/get high. there are so many other ways to do this stuff, ways that are productive or less expensive or something that is worth actually telling as a story.

Second I will say that I am for legalizing all but the worst of drugs. Who am I to tell you what you can do? Legalize it. This way we can regulate it, tax it, and effectively end these massive drug wars. It also stops a lot of people from doing this shit, it takes out a lot of the cool factor. I feel the same way about prostitution. That doesn't mean I agree with it and I hope that all of you guys avoid this shit.

Mei, admitting that you have a problem is the first step. I am glad that you are able to tell us what you are doing and that you know that it is a problem. I know it is hard but I would try and limit yourself from the places that you know that are bad for you. Also, try to confide in some that you trust, someone that won't judge you, but that will be will to help you keep away from your problems. It's ok to take it slowly. Good luck, man, and know that if you need some more advice we are here and (I'd at least like to think) we won't judge you for it.

[Mei 276]

aww, thanks ito.

@miyuu: i used to have eating disorders too XD hahaha not funny, at all. but this thing of drugs is solving that problem but making bigger others. (i weigh 58 kg and am 185 cm tall. pheeew)

[guitar.chic92 1]

Pretty much everything Ito said. If things like drugs and prostitution were legalized, then they could also be held to certain standards, making them a little bit safer...

But I will never use them myself, (especially alcohol since it's ruined most of my family).

Also sending internet hugs for Mei. Good luck.