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they best not pull a sadie on us and suddenly scrap half the tracklist or i'mma get mad

other than that *fapping*

Mona Lisa Overdrive by BUCK-TICK, Zekuu by MUCC, Macabre by Dir en grey, Puppet Show by Plastic Tree and Dai 7 Jikkenshitsu by cali gari are definitely my top 5.

Well, FAKE? aren't VK either, so I guess we can assume the term VK applies loosely here? :>

man, I was HOPING they were gonna do this

The obvious ones to go to are WAGDUG and AA= since they're both basically what came after TMCM 'split'

other than that, jap nu-metal/nu-metal influenced bands that I know of ( not alot, sorry :U ) are Gun dog, Rize, Uzumaki, Bull Zeichen 88, Maximum the Hormone ( but you already know them :B ) and ROTTENGRAFFTY ( at times )

For more punk-type bands try kamomekamome, eastern youth, BRAHMAN and GING-NANG BOYZ. Perhaps the entire BURST CITY movie's soundtrack too

The whole jap music > western music is something I tend to have problems with. I find it rather ridiculous...

theres only a rather small amount of japanese bands that actually sound ~unique~ IMO, and those are the bands that actually use 'traditional' elements in their music ( and no, wearing a kimono once doesn't count ). Those are rather far and inbetween. Other than that, most of the western and japanese bands are interchangeable in terms of sound, disregarding language here, of course.

I'd say 4 plugs is probably more nu-metal than punk, but... If it's japanese hardcore you're looking for, here's a list of (potentially) cool stuff to check out:

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Zoroaster sound pretty sweet.

Mastodon, I tried Blood Mountain but upon 1st listen it didn't do too much for me yet. Should I start with one of their other releases?

Holy shit that Dark Castle sounds sweet too, exactly that semi-oppressive style of music that I was looking for. On a related note, the band Pulling Teeth is pretty sweet too when they go sludgey on their more recent tracks ( though their non-sludgey tracks are cool too )

Music similar to the sound DeG were aiming for with Tsumi To Kisei, but better, please. Don't care for the nationality of the artists.

Which makes me more confused by the fact that all these super small bands are coming over ALL THE TIME

how can they have enough money while those big ones don't

I gues that's true, but when you compare the amount of bands going overseas to that of a few years ago, you can probably see a large drop in the amount and type of bands that make the journey overseas. Nowadays it is mostly these weird unexpected bands that have like 10 fans overseas that come over to Europe, usually from Kiwamu's label, with maybe one semi-'big' band ( big being UNDERCODE-level ) a year.. The popularity and demand for bands seems to have gone down again.

There are almost no bands in this world who can make great music for your own ears for lot of years or even more then 10 years or more then 30 years.

disagree, Buck-Tick has literally not made an album I dislike yet in their entire lifespan

And people thought the 3D effects in the Red Soil PV were bad... I like the song and the imagery, but WHY DID IT HAVE TO LOOK SO FAKE ;O;

The fuck is the current VK scene even

I don't even know anymore man, like nearly everything in it makes me feel like Stan in those Tweenwave south park episodes, even cocklobin doesn't do anything for me :\

Only remotely new things I've enjoyed lately are XA-VAT, GalapagosS, amber gris and Chemical pictures. Feels kind of like the scene is dying overseas too.

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well this definitely became one of my fav pvs ever fast

Post-Avant VKcore

and no, being a tryhard trendwhore doesn't equal being experimental/broading horizons/any other silly excuse

God, this is starting to apply to MUCC so hard it isn't even funny

can we still vote or is it closed

cali gari's 37654 just for the sheer 'noise' factor of it all

Buck-Tick's Muma-the nightmare- for sheer added epicness

Also Diabolos by Dir en grey

MY DRAGON's Nijigen Complex, looping for the entire funeral's duration, including the PV playing on several widescreen tv's in the background

Would uhnellys count as hip-hop? I'm not really sure anymore..

Rip Slyme are pretty cool too. Nujabes and DJ Krush as well ofc, but they're instrumental so idk if it counts

I think I got an infriction for upping a XA-VAT vid.

oh my gooooooooooood