Saishu

Behind a Vacant Image is up there for me. I love Kaishun for the guitar solo alone, Tousei always kills me with Toshiya’s overlooked bass solo.

All I hear is another Kasumi.

It’s always weird when someone says it’s nice to hear Kyo sing again when at no point has he ever stopped singing. Arche was roughly, what, 90% clean vocals? And don’t get me wrong, I’m fine with DEG gettin’ chill, but that preview sounds like a million other ballads.

No way, man, Hakudaku is absolutely gorgeous. Ranunculus is as standard as VK ballads come as far as that preview is telling me

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Considering Ningen’s video was censored because of cheesy CG gore, who knows.

Also gonna call it now. Album will be under 50 minutes.

Kind of sounds like something Luna Sea would have done towards the end of their first run. I assume it’s not just a dime-a-dozen VK ballad in 6/8, though. It does sound like an album closer. So good on them

Probably an audio cue in their in-ear monitors. If you notice Die looked like he knew when to start before Shinya did anything.

The leak was a pretty good portion of the song though. I’m sure we’ll be able to figure it out.

You’ll find out when they release samples.

Gimme more of them Hisaki bass tones to jiggle my nuts

What the FUCK am I looking at?

Who’s gonna give first, Kisaki or Yoshiki?

This absolute insanity, and the Satsuki comparison is on point. But at least these two had the foresight to make music that doesn’t require a band so they don’t look like asshats on stage singing with a boom box blasting rock music behind them.

Lol, yeah I was in that thread, and I agreed with you. I guess the Gazette drama was my fault because I used the fans as an example.

Is the original single release of Sustain the Untruth the worst sounding mix in DEG’s entire catalog? There is literally nothing but noise in the chorus, yet the verses are mostly fine. Especially with the way Toshiya is placed right in the middle; he really pops (pun slightly intended).

I don’t remember how I found his videos. Might have been the rabbit hole of DEG covers on YouTube. I remember he deleted everything on his channel, started doing covers again, then just disappeared entirely. He was truly an Internet treasure.

Was it scutmandu?

I’m actually writing a review of Chedoara and I discuss Sho’s vocals a bit. It’s interesting because his harsh vocals are clearly inspired by Kyo, but he takes a different approach with his cleans. And overall, Dimlim just doesn’t remind of DEG outside of a few chaotic riffs here and there.

Reaction videos are typically where this happens.

Obviously there are a ton of factors here, but I honestly wonder how much music these people listen to outside of DEG and Gazette. There’s also the question of when did they get into this, because I know when I first started out with Gackt, Malice Mizer, and DEG, I thought everything else was inferior. It’s not that the music was better than what I had been listening to, it was just different. It sounded new. We know the average VK fan can often be blinded by adoration, but goddamn are you really ACTUALLY listening to the music itself when you claim you like every song your favorite band has written? I’ve only been on this forum for a few years, but it’s nice to be able to have real discussions without having to pussyfoot around giving criticism. I don’t know if you guys managed to weed out all the toxic trash over the years, but I appreciate the VK safe space.

Disposable nailed it, it’s the YouTube crowd. Gazette fans lose their shit whenever Gazette is compared to DEG, and the claim it’s because DEG fans are rude to them. Which, honestly, is probably the case. But then Gazette fans take the passive-aggressive approach and spam Gazette songs in comments for DEG videos. It’s just really weird. Especially considering the fans think that both bands are totally not ripping anyone else off. Also a weird but funny thing. Criticize a Gazette song and you’re met with “if you don’t like it then why comment? Gazette works hard and they don’t deserve the negativity” Criticize a DEG song and you get “fuck you.”

I don’t know if I’m opening a can of worms here, but... Specifically, why they beefin’? There’s this sort of unspoken feud between both fan bases, and both sides sound ridiculous. Did I miss something?

exactly.