6 Things To Consider When Choosing A College

[LIDL 692]

It's fall, and there are many high school juniors and seniors

that are looking at different colleges across the country,

trying to determine which one is right for them.

Which university will be their place of learning and growth for the next four years?

If you're one of these students about to branch off into the next phase of your life,

this is for you.

In no specific order,

here are some things that you should consider when picking your school.

Coming from personal experience

1) Cost. Of course, one of the main things you would to think about is the cost of colleges that you are interested in.

Most schools offer scholarships, and you can apply for other scholarships and grants,

and even take on some loans if need be.

But you don't want to enroll in a school that you and your family will not be able to handle financially.

It's not fun if you have to drop out in the middle cos of this.

2) Size. Some people like schools surrounded by a mass amount of people.

Others would prefer to keep it small and more personal.

That's something that needs to be factored into your choice.

There's pros and cons to each.

A larger school tends to have more liveliness and notoriety,

but a smaller school has smaller class sizes and more connection with faculty.

3) Location. Location also matters.

Some people want to get as far away from home as possible.

Others would like to stay local.

It also determines what's available for you to things to do off campus.

If you're in a big city like New York, there will always be a lot to do outside of school.

Other more remote places, not so much.

4) Curriculum/Major. This is basic.

Does the core curriculum and other elective classes seem interesting?

Is the major that you're interested in offered at these colleges?

If not, there's no point in applying.

5) Clubs/Services. Though this shouldn't be at the top of the list,

it is important to see what kinds of student clubs and services a college offers.

A gym, career center, student organizations that you can get involved in.

Clubs and services on your campus can really make a difference in your time away.

6) School Environment. How do you feel walking around on campus?

Do you feel welcomed, or do you feel like just another student, another number?

Would you honestly be happy here?

Some colleges grant prospective students the opportunity to stay overnight

for a weekend to learn more about their school.

If the colleges that you are applying to have an overnight program, sign up.

You can get a feel for the campus better,

and decide from there if this is where you would like to spend your next four years.

Also, when visiting a college, the tour guides, of course,

are going to go on and on about how great the school is. They're literally trained to.

Try to talk to a regular student passing by,

And just ask them what they do and don't like about the school.

A little out of the comfort zone, I know, but it's nice to get an honest opinion.

To those who already in college,

What other factors do you think should be taken into consideration?

And to those who will go into college,

how ready are you to welcome the college life?

How far/well is your preparation?

[Biopanda 2675]

I think the most important thing when choosing a good college is to make sure there are plenty of hot babes to bang there.

[Zeus 7997]

As much as biopanda was probably joking, he's got a point. I go to a college where the ratio of guys to girls is 60-40, with there being more girls than guys on campus. Guys go HELL YEAH SIGN ME UP, but all the girls feel like they can't find anyone on campus so they maintain relationships back home. There's nothing like walking into a party and seeing a large amount of girls dancing with their significant others while the single guys line up on the side of the barn thinking to themselves "herpderp let's get drunk".

Balance is key manz.

[Peace Heavy mk II 7200]

My school is about 75-25 male / female. Works for me, since girls are gross! Shame most of the guys here are gross neckbeards or deaf .

[Licio123 181]

Not in my college. Id say there are 65% females and 35% males. They are mostly spoiled bitches, though. XD

[SUBLIMINAL 52]

I would go to an all girls college.

Major: feminism.

Aw yeeeah.

[LIDL 692]

they say homogeneous school is so full of backstabbing, senior-ism and bully though

[TheBistroButcher666 228]

I think one thing students may need to consider is their degree going to get them a job because a degree will not guarantee you work. This isn't the case for everything but when thinking of your major give it some thought. I have a friend with a Masters in History and he is working in retail and still living at home and I have another friend with a Bachelors in English working in a call center getting yelled at kids because their Xbox red ringed.

[Number Girl 48]

Make sure they have a good football team.

Lol, not really . . . but school spirit has the power to draw you closer to other people in a good way, even on very large campuses.

[Zeus 7997]

I think one thing students may need to consider is their degree going to get them a job because a degree will not guarantee you work. This isn't the case for everything but when thinking of your major give it some thought. I have a friend with a Masters in History and he is working in retail and still living at home and I have another friend with a Bachelors in English working in a call center getting yelled at kids because their Xbox red ringed.

^ I tried to say this in class and got the disapproval face.

We have a whole "no major is less useful than another major" thing going on as part of our acceptance and diversity thing at this school. Sorry, but no. Are you going to tell me that someone that studies Physics and someone that studies Communication put in the same amount of effort and should be regarded as equal majors? You might make me spurt the Pepsi out of my nose if you're serious. I even know some Communication majors that will tell you they're majoring in basketweaving and future unemployment, because that's what that kind of degree will get you once you're done. How can I be sure of this? I know a few people that chose their majors because it would allow them to coast through college. Now they're unemployed and struggling and in debt with a degree that can't land them a job. The physics majors? Working in the labs making some money. As you can see, some majors just aren't going to be as applicable when you get out into the real world and if you major in something that isn't as applicable you just might struggle for a bit before landing that job.

I'll speak just for America when I say this: If you're not going to go to college and major in something that will arguably start making a reasonable amount of cash within a year, don't put out the money to get the degree. Example? Philosophy. Philosophy probably isn't going to get you a job with 6 figures. In fact, I highly doubt it will get you a job that makes 5. I met an adjunct lecturer at my college with a Ph.D in Philosophy. He made 16K a year. He is now an EMT and makes double what he made beforehand after our class had a nice discussion with him and told him (quite frankly at that) to quit teaching and get a real job. I know plenty of Philosophy majors in college. Do they work hard? Quite hard when you put them in perspective. What are they going to do when they get into the real world? I don't know, they don't know. Teach? That's about it. The world isn't exactly clamoring for Philosophy teachers in their massively successful Philosophy departments in their Schools of Philosophy. They're going to struggle and they know it. They don't know how they're going to pay back the loans though.

So I really want everyone here to be happy and not have to struggle. If I offended you because you are one of these majors I'm sorry, but really do think about it. Pick up a minor or two. Diversify yourself because it gives you a better shot at making a job. If you don't know what you want to major in that's just fine too.

I also post this next picture out of jest:

Whilst I disagree with the placement of one or two of these, for the most part this is accurate.

[SUBLIMINAL 52]

Unless I go into medicine, I'm mid-tier. Yay life sciences.

That is damn accurate, though. I feel like languages should be on there, and placed relatively high. Every time I job hunt someone is seeking a translator.

[Zeus 7997]

Unless I go into medicine, I'm mid-tier. Yay life sciences.

That is damn accurate, though. I feel like languages should be on there, and placed relatively high. Every time I job hunt someone is seeking a translator.

/rant

Don't worry. I'm mid-tier too. I actually could argue that they should bump Computer Science up one tier, since you literally can't do any of those jobs efficiently these days (or do anything efficiently for that matter) without the aid of a computer and an operating system to help you. I am glad they made the distinction between scientists and IT. IT has extremely little correlation with Computer Science. There are people at my school that work at the IT department. I literally think all they do is wait around until something breaks and then fix it. I COULD DO THAT JOB AND I DON'T HAVE A DEGREE! Hell, I think half of us could do that job. They also hire students (that aren't necessarily Computer Science majors) to do the rudimentary IT things, like hook up the computer to the internet and make sure you're using the right certificates. To the average person, they look like they know what they're doing. To me, I go in there, tell them why something isn't working in advanced terms and then they run off to go get someone that can actually understand what I just said. GTFO.

Ololol What about GeekSquad dey iz so elite? Fuck GeekSquad. They charge you 99 dollars to erase your computer and format Windows again. I can do that in half the time FOR FREE. They never actually diagnose your problem half the time either. They just say: "Virus? Looks like we've gotta wipe everything!" Of course, half of their problems would just be solved if people just stopped using Windows improperly but they aren't going to teach people about the importance of a Firewall and Anti-Virus and not using Internet Explorer (and even if they did I doubt anyone would listen). It's also worth noting that half these places are Unixtarded and don't know how to deal with HFS+ or Debian and if you mention it to them they have NO idea what you're talking about. They are barely competent with Mac. I need help with Ubuntu? Oops, GeekSquad can't help you. That's IT for you - people that masquerade about knowing about computers when they actually know jack shit.

/rant

I needed to get that off my chest. If anything, I would drop them down a tier too.

[Champ213 1858]

This is a bit OT, but...

They just say: "Virus? Looks like we've gotta wipe everything!"

LOL! Yes, this is the hallmark of every badly qualified IT person. A few years ago my computer refused to connect to the internet, for no apparent reason. Against my better judgement I called the support hotline of my ISP, because I wanted to know if the problem maybe was on their side. The guy asked me 3 or 4 questions and then decided that in order to fix the problem, I would have to format the hard drive and reinstall windows, a process that would take hours if you consider that I'd have to backup all stuff and then re-install all programmes.

I eventually fixed the problem by using Windows' system restore to reset the system to a restore point from the day before. That process took 5 minutes.

[LIDL 692]

Well, as an I.T graduate and getting a fruitful reult from it,

i feel the need to say something here:

There is many profession possibilities for I.T graduate.

Two very general categories of specialization revolve around infrastructure and applications.

Infrastructure

Infrastructure, very simply, is a category used to describe what makes IT run. These are the geeks with the pagers, cell phones or other devices that keep them tethered to the mother ship. Without these people, IT doesn't happen. There are several groupings of infrastructure skills that work together to provide the piping needed to run IT organizations.

Networking and communications. :

It's all about bandwidth. Preserving and optimizing this precious resource is what this group is all about. Routers, switches and caching engines are just the start of the technologies you need to know to be successful in this group.

The communications side deals more with telephony, or making the telephone network software work. Voice over IP is one of the most recent technologies in telephony being touted as a bottom-line enhancement in this area.

IT operations. :

Larger IT installations require a staff of operations technicians who specialize in running the IT Infrastructure. Here, you'll find server specialists who model and support the installation, setup and configuration of application servers that run everything from user authentication and management to the accounting and HR applications for the company.

Data security. :

The network and the workstations on the network are the backbone of the IT infrastructure. Protecting these assets from unwanted and/or unauthorized access by both external and internal threats is paramount to this group. Once a virus finds its way in, it can infect an entire network of thousands of workstations in a matter of minutes. Specialized skills in asset management are required to prevent these events from occurring.

Internet technical support services. :

All Web pages need a server. All Web servers need hardware and software to operate. Inet services is a group of technicians and administrators that service the components that make the Web servers run efficiently.

ERP technical support services. :

Enterprise resource planning (ERP) systems usually run the larger companywide systems for order processing, finance and accounting, human resource management and product manufacturing. SAP, Oracle and Microsoft are the largest players in the high-end market. These systems require specialized skills in IT architecture and management to ensure that they run optimally and can be recovered effectively in case of disaster. These folks are highly trained in the operational and administrative functions related to these systems and manage server-side resources related to keeping them operational.

End-user support services. :

End-user support and help desk services conjure up characters like the IT guy played by Jimmy Fallon on Saturday Night Live. But end-user support is much more than the guy with a bad attitude and annoying personality showing up at your desk. Obviously, if everyone in IT support acted like that, we'd all be considering a career change. In fact, help desk/user support is where most college grads start as contractors, hoping to land a permanent position with a good company.

Besides the help desk responsibilities, this group also covers server and desktop patch management, software certification and rollout, and new-technology assessment.

Applications

Applications is a broad term that relates to the programs and the systems of programs that make the business run. Some organizations align their development staffs with the business systems they support. Other organizations align their development staffs with the business processes they support. The difference is subtle but significant. The former is a more traditional association of a group of developers assigned to, say, the accounting or HR system. In a process-aligned model, a development staff is expected to know the business systems and processes of the accounting department. A business process may span several departments, while a business system may be more bounded to a particular group or function.

In a process-aligned structure, developers need to be knowledgeable not only about the debits and credits as they appear on a screen or report, but also about the process cycle and surrounding reasons for those debits and credits. This shift to bring the business process closer to IT development staff has led to the position called business analyst. The business analyst manages the process and the systems that support it by coaching and directing the development staff in the ways of their world.

Accounting is a simple analogy. Transfer that to a more complex business problem like new product development or life and health sciences, and it becomes clear that you not only need to learn the development tools, but you must also walk the walk of the business processes you develop systems for. So strive for that double major in a business, engineering or life science degree, and you become a highly desired asset for many employers.

Other opportunities that have become more common with the dawn of the Internet include the following:

Web design. :

Web design requires a sense of organizational structure, visual composition and a knack for pulling it all together in a design that can be easily managed on a Web site. Web graphic artists usually provide the fodder for Web designers to create their art on a Web page. Many times, you'll find Web designers are people with graphic arts degrees using the Web as their palette.

Content management. :

Content Management is a cross between media management and Web publishing. Did you ever wonder how MSN, Yahoo, AOL and other sites get their content to be so timely and dynamic? Content managers and Web publishers use publishing tools to allow content to appear at predetermined intervals. Many tools can be used to manage content on a Web site. These tools allow the content manager to publish ads, announcements, events and articles far in advance of them actually appearing on the Web site.

Usability testing. :

Did you ever wonder why the MSN Web site has a blue theme? Or how it's determined what appears on the left navigation bar? Or why an ad is placed where it is? The quick answer is it's all based on usability testing. This fascinating subject revolves around how people use a particular Web page or business application. More sophisticated usability labs use hidden cameras, microphones and other probes to "watch" users as they traverse a site. Based on this usability data, calculated over a number of usability tests, a Web designer can accurately determine what makes one design more attractive over another.

Web analytics. :

If companies will pay you to place their product on your Web site, how can they believe your numbers. and how can you set a price to advertise on your site when you can't possibly know how many people are visiting competitive sites? Enter Web analytics. This is a relatively new area that specializes in measuring, quantifying and comparing various metrics to determine how "valuable" your site is compared to others in the same genre. Advertising companies use this data to set rates, just like they do in any media-driven enterprise.

Metrics are also used by companies to measure things like how well a product campaign was received and where people go on the when they leave your site. Traffic analysis patterns can impact how a site is designed and can be used to justify product development and where a company spends its IT dollars.

And as i have said on "what you want to be" topic, it make good money.

When i first started it, i made 30k/year in my old work place.

And now 4 years after, having new work place and got promotion,

this year, i can make 85k/year, after tax. No kidding.

It depends on how much you can actually do and not what you think you can do.

And i am not graduating from bonafide University.

Imagine if you are graduate from famous university.

Plus, the career opportunity pretty much every where. Literally around the Globe.

If you are willing to go abroad, there is still so many countries still in short of IT graduates.

Say Australia. I have been getting a lot of offer from agent to move there.

But i keep it on hold for the moment, cos the offer isn't that good yet.

if you are in IT majoring now. Or consider as one.

my suggestion is to have contractor/consultant or corporate employee as your future career.

It really makes good money. Better than mine.

You can swag Gucci suit like it's nothing, seriously.

[Zeus 7997]

Note that my rage above is towards GeekSquad and not IT as a whole. I HATE GeekSquad (if you haven't noticed) as I don't believe they provide a valuable service to anyone. I just dislike how that's the premiere "this is an IT guy" mental image that people have.

I actually want to ask you a few questions about IT, since you do it:

1) If Data Security is such a large issue, why do people insist on using operating systems that can be compromised so easily? What operating system would you use in your workplace?

2) Why does Australia need so many IT graduates?

3) What would an IT department based on Applications do if suddenly everyone were utilizing a browser with an ad-blocker that disabled Google from tracking your every move?

4) How much programming (if any) did you have to learn to be an IT Professional? That (whatever you copied, article?) that you inserted talked a lot about what different IT professionals can do but it doesn't talk about them actually getting into the meat of the computer too much. When it's a hardware problem it seems relatively easy for you guys to fix it. What about software problems?

...That's about all of it for now XD

[LIDL 692]

O.K, and should i really answer these here?

Cos you know, this has been really OOT all along.

And this looks like personal questions you like to know than something that

have any connection to this topic at all. And honestlyi have all the rights to not answering.

You could always get me on messenger or stuffs if it's really urgent, you know.

Or you actually want to prove something?

But for short, i'll say it like this.

Data Security mainly bothered by people who aware about

computer is more than just Microsoft Office.

Outside this department, they just want their business go smoothly.

And Data Security department work to make sure that there is no threat on the network.

Because when a network is jammed, that could means millions of dollar fly away.

In my workplace a couple of OS were used.

Mac and Windows. Most departments in the building

is using Windows for Excel and shit.

And why they using OS that are fragile with threats?

The answer is obvious, funding and user friendliness.

Would these accountants bother to understood Linux interface

before they can use Libre Office? No.

If you read newspapers,

i am sure you can find out why Australia need many skilled workers.

This is no secrets.

And mainly engineer and IT.

They have many growing business going on, but

got mainly fresh graduates with little to no working experience that they can trust on.

This is when many agent try to hijack a worker from one office to another with a better offer usually.

Especially when going abroad, some basic offers usually includes duty house and car.

And when you are hijacked, you mostly have the rights to negotiate on how much you will feel

comfortable to be paid. As long as the company afford it.

Back at uni learned some programming, how to do debugging,

source code maintaining, learned some scripting languages (Phyton, PHP, rexx, perl,

Java, etc. also, we also worked with CISCO for learning basic skills like routing, switching, network security, learn to work with their softwares just to get their career certificate.

If that happen, the department will find another way around to gain your personal information.

And it can be anything.

However, AdBlock still loads the ads, just won't show them.

It doesn't have the required API to prevent ads and scripts from loading.

So AdBlock and NoScript programs only truly hide their respective things.

And considering that the fact is majority of the population still blindly use the pre-installed IE

and don't even know that there are alternatives,

I don't think Google have anything to worry about.

now we back to the topic, k?

Where is the soon to be college students?

We need your input too <3

[Zeus 7997]

Nope, I didn't ask to try and prove a point. I asked the question just so I can learn more about it. I'm not toolish like that I also ask because the answers to those questions are somewhat important to the average user but they don't necessarily know about any of them. Hell, even I learned some stuff from that post so you know it's useful. Also, if anyone was interested in being an IT guy, well now they have more information from someone here so they can make their decision. In that way, we were never really off-topic at all. Colleges and majors go hand in hand, really. You can't finish college without even knowing what you want to do by the time you're getting out, although going in without having an idea is fine.

I know personally that when I came to college I tried to go after my first major thinking it was something completely different than from what it ended up being. That was because even when you try to do research on your own, you really aren't getting that "full story". It's more useful to get the first-hand account from someone that's working at that job than someone that's just typing it up because they're supposed to. They may not have the details that could make or break that decision for you. A good example would be when I was looking for majors myself - I was really thinking about working with machines but I didn't even think that a concrete theoretical approach to computers was something that I could major in in college. Everyone was always talking about the science and the physics behind it all, so that's where I got the idea for my first major, which was Physics. It wasn't until I got here and looked around that I found what I'm currently doing today.

So I suppose that ties into one of the points that you brought up about looking at the programs that are in your college. It's hard to do it when you're not in college because all the colleges fudge the details about their programs and always talk about things in a better light than they may necessarily be in. Sometimes it's a good idea to approach someone (if you can) about the programs at differing schools and ask them if the programs are any good. Just because a school offers the program you want doesn't mean that it's any good! Just take my schools CSci department - some of the teachers have trouble speaking English and communicating their thoughts and that gets in the way of teaching. There are some that you can tell didn't grow up with English as their first language but they can explain points well enough for you to understand but it just works out that those that can't are the ones that happen to teach all the intro courses. You can't teach if you can't communicate thoughts properly! There's a website here that I would suggest people look at when they're looking for colleges to attend. Look at the ratings the professor gets and read the comments. If an entire department has really crappy teachers, it could be an indication that that school might not have the best program in the world for what you're going for. At the very least it can't hurt. I know I had no information going into college so putting out there anything I can is a lot better than just keeping what I know to myself.

Also, a lot of people get into these really specific aspirations for themselves. That's not really bad but what could pose a problem is if you're looking for a really specific major that most schools wouldn't carry. If you happen to fall into that boat, what you could do is go to college and apply for the really general major and then take classes that are specific to the thing that you want to do. That way when you go out for the job the degree might not say that you majored in X but you can show that you have the skills to do X. Also, if you plan on going to graduate or medical school it won't hurt at all. In my college I know that plenty of people that want to go to medical school major in biology, chemistry or biochemistry. I know some of them want to be vets and others are going into pharmecuticals but they're all taking the same classes because they plan on specializing later. The program at my school is so well-known that the graduates get 2.0 averages but everyone wants them because they know what they're doing - and their degrees don't necessarily correlate to what they end up getting a job in. So that's always a great thing to keep in mind

I think that's all I can contribute until someone jogs my brain again for something else that I can add.

And I didn't mean to offend you with any of my comments Chianti.

[Peace Heavy mk II 7200]

Why isn't New Media Interactive Development listed in that picture?!??!?!??!!??!?!?!!?! Not like I even really know what it is, 3 years in, BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT.

[TheBistroButcher666 228]

Ahhh Zess, you said basically what I wanted to say but I was afraid I'd make some people angry. It's a touchy subject, I had originally wrote a huge rant but thought it was pretty negative and mean so I just kept it brief and simple. I know that chart isn't completely accurate but I figure I'd pipe in and say I disagree with some of the items on that chart but agree with all the ones in the shit tier level. I agree with Chianti about information tech and that it should be up one or two tiers, also business, pharmacy and comp science should be pushed up too. If you're low level IT resetting passwords and doing simple dumb tasks, yeah that's low paying shit work but there's potential for good careers in IT.

Please be aware people with shit tier majors but it's also how you use your degree or what you plan to also minor in. Psych degrees are usually scoffed at but imagine minoring in psych and major in marketing. Or a language degree with a business or marketing degree, especially Chinese, Russian or areas that have potential market growth. English also has potential to get you nice careers but if you plan to be a writer, remember being successful like Harry Potter is like winning the lottery. Technical writers are always needed. I think this is why I don't think students should rush to college, you have a narrow view of the world. Sure history and english were a big deal in grade school and they're good subjects but have limited use outside of school.

In the end it depends on the person and the effort and work they put into it, a degree does not guarantee you a job and a Benz.

I think I'll rant about loans and debt.

I think people need to also be very aware of debt and what loans will and can do to you. If you're passionate about history and don't care what people think or say, that's great people should follow their passions. Just know that the 80k in loans you took is going to be a struggle to pay off. This isn't magic money that will go away YOU CANNOT GET RID OF STUDENT LOANS BY FILING BANKRUPTCY. If that's your plan, well you're going to be in a world of hurt. You cannot get rid of student loans period. You use to be able to file for bankruptcy and get them wiped out back in the 80s and 70s but it got so out of hand laws were passed to prevent people from doing it. So don't be retarded about it.

So anyway, this shit isn't magic money. Live cheaply, only take what you need and pay it off quickly as possible. You got an extra $100 from grandma this birthday? Put it towards the loans. The faster you pay it off the better you will be. I go out to eat with someone that makes about the same as myself, I can order that $50 lobster tail and $12 glass of wine because I don't give a shit while my friend will order the $7 salad and a water because they have a $400 student loan due at the end of the month. I haven't finished my degree so paying off what I owed was easy so I know I had it easier than others and I understand that this might be harder for others. Yet I strongly urge that any extra cash you get, put it to the loans.

So I'm kinda drunk but basically be aware that loans are serious business and you're stuck with that shit and it isn't going to go away.

[Zeus 7997]

No problem, Arithmetica. I've actually offended quite a few people this week with this same topic (probably including Chianti too ). but sometimes I can't hold back and I do feel the need to inadequately explain what I did above. The results are usually obvious.

This is just a personal interpretation of mine so feel free to call me all sorts of wrong, but I generalize majors into three categories of my own. There are the majors that help move society forward, the majors that help society run from day to day, and the majors that open up awareness and critical thinking but don't directly affect society. I can see that the list was divided up in that way to some extent but it puts some in a zone where it makes it look unattractive (the only thing unattractive about all the shit tier majors are the wages you'll be making once you try to find a job). There is really a place for all those majors in society. If there weren't, we wouldn't offer courses in any of them.

The most important aspect of going to college is to become as knowledgeable and diverse in as many things that interest you as possible. That's why they're are courses like Humanities and Philosophy and Blacks in the South During Reconstruction (that's actually a course here). There are really general courses and really specific courses and there's so much there should be plenty of things that possibly could be interesting and that you should take as long as it doesn't interfere with what you're "going for". You may never have another chance to look at topics like that again so it's always worth picking them out and learning something new.

I'm probably going to end up in IT too, considering that with my degree it's the most attractive prospect out there. I want to do a lot more though but the economic situation isn't making that look likely. I think in my vitriolic rant I confused low-paying IT jobs with actual decent and great IT jobs because I get very general when I rant and that's not a good thing

[LIDL 692]

O.K Zess, well truthfully, i was misreading your post earlier.

But now that you explain it better,

all things gets much clearer now.

I guess this is the ups and downs with discussions,

most of the time the typed words can be misinterpreted greatly

than when it is said. cannot really avoid it ha!

But t'was fun discussions after all.

I guess when you go to college, you have to already know where are you going to.

I mean, what you will want to do for a career. And will the major supporting to that.

There is some fresh graduates that i know here who were having some underpaid jobs

just because they didn't really know/aware of what kind of professions can be

done by their degree. While they can actually make more than they did right now.

Regarding Computer majoring, most of the majors were pretty flexible.

And especially today, with computer and internet being the most dynamic thing

it really give you great choice for professions.

I guess that pays after dealing many hours of "logic stuffs" classes hahaha

And so many places still in need for skilled graduates too,

it is opposite with Economics graduates that in the light of

recessions now, the demand for Economics are getting lesser and lesser.

Try to submit application for half time job during your last few semesters

in the field you were majoring at.

There is some office who more than happy to accept such application.

Just to have experience how they really do it on the working field.

And it will give you profit too, because you are pretty much well trained

by the time you graduating. It added more value for future employer to know.

And if you showing good performance,

they may even contract you fully by the time you graduating.

That is not bad at all for a start, though you can always have the choice

to applying to another place n__nb

College is super serious thing

p.s: that rate my professor website is super neat, i wish we had it back then :<

[usuxorz 30]

I think "medicine" should only be in the god tier if you mean doctors and the like. Nursing, on the other hand, should be down a notch or two. There is NO shortage of nurses in the USA, unless you go to the rural areas in the middle. The media keeps talking about nurse shortages and shit, but it's all a lie based on manipulated data.

Can you guess my major?

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Other things to consider include:

transportation / ease of access (to, from, and across campus)

housing (not all of us live with our family, so a cheap apartment literally across the street from school is a lifesaver ^_~)

do idiot students have an occupy movement going on, claiming not to afford tuition but could afford a brand new 4-person tent for the cause?

scholarship availability

the school's reputation (known for excellent/piss-poor classes; most important for transferring)

student services (help you find a job, fill out school paperwork, etc)

[TheBistroButcher666 228]

do idiot students have an occupy movement going on, claiming not to afford tuition but could afford a brand new iPhone 4GS or a MacBook Pro?

Fixed

[usuxorz 30]

Thing is, those can be considered school supplies and would pass a financial aid audit.