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Madeth gray'll ;___;

This project had such high potential when they were still a proper band. It fell kinda flat after Chaos' departure. Which wouldn't have been such an issue if they'd simply continued with their activity (loosing one vocalist is no tragedy when you have two), but it seems the rest of the band stopped caring pretty much as soon as he left and now after a long gap of no activity Kyouka is releasing these half assed songs… disappointing.

recently stumbled upon this rarez bando with an amazing name: UNRIPE PUSSY CORPSE ANOTHER PERSON is pretty silly too.

tbh, I'd rather have their new album they announced aeons ago than this DVD… ;/

I know I am going to open a big can of worms, but being active in the goth subculture for so many years and knowing people in the scene personally who have been part of this thing since the early 80s, I say the whole thing about gawf being a counter-culture misanthropic youth fashion trend is wrong and some cliché that the media came up with during the age of the Satanic Panic and ran with it. It's been (and will always be) about the music and not so much the clothes or hating everyone (lol, most old wavers and goffs I know are so perky you'd think they are all untrve poseurs if you didn't knew any better). I know that's an argument many people do not like, because that means it takes more than heavy eyeliner and tacky shillstar clothes made in Bangladesh - such as actually liking some post-punk and goth music. And many people think they need that dreaded "G" label to prove how different they are from mainstream society and will fight tooth and nail that they "deserve" the label because of how they dress, which is something I don't get. Also I have never met any of these people who wear 800 euros and more on their skin in the actual real life. These people primarily exist on the web, where they belong in the same bin with every other cancerous social media clown and influencer, or they walk around big festivals to get photographed (but never actually engage with anyone or pay attention to the music). I feel most of these "goff" people who are sponsor for some brand are just some regular alt chicks who realized that selling themselves as rebellious, edgy person makes them somehow different (and thus more authentic) than the hundred other people who do the same, but for some "normie" brand. Then there are the few cases where people from the scene did become greedy and partake in this shit. But right now there is a nice backlash against it, so it#s not like everyone is okay with it. In fact, people have been arguing a long time that it#s not a fashion contest. Most people at goth (and adjacent) events, club nights and concerts are piss poor or know to spend their money for more important things. If they wear that awful blunder then they usually buy it secondhand. And considering how the scene is slowly falling to gentrification, many don't even dress up anymore, and that's totally okay. It's only in web communities that people get so uptight and act like assholes. Which isn't so surprising, but that's also why I really recommend to get outside more and leave the internet for some time. Ever since I started to go out more again, meeting real people and reducing my online presence to a bare minimum, I have been much happier. Anyway, my stupid cents on this topic, since it seems to have made some big waves online. And I am glad it does. I think the same can and should be applied to any music scene, culture or just society in general; one doesn't need to worship some fucking brand to feel better about themselves and looks aren't everything. Sadly people give influencers way too much credit, even when they know that these people are paid by companies to sell their trash and will base their entire self worth on some criteria tailored by the folks that run good old capitalism.

^to be fair, almost every 90s and early 00s VK bandomen had these sharpie brows, lmao. It was a very 90s thing, as seen with Gwen Stefani. It was over the top and ridiculous and I love it.

Pretty telling how people dislike it because it involves Karma, but since it's not br00tal and AvelCain-ish enough it's regarded the worst of all (even tough AvelCain was even shittier, since additional to sucky vocals no one could write or play instruments). The same people however praise nostalgic indie shit like La'veil Mizeria to the heavens, despite Kikyo being just as incompetent in holding his notes. If this band had some no1curr vocalist people would be creaming themselves, yelling "true saviors of Visual kei!".

This thread needs a revival, there's been so much good stuff in the scene lately! New Skeletal faces are a pretty dope deathrock band and my recent find: Trashlight are making some heavily shoegaze inspired post-punk/goth music, their EP is fresh and new: Another great deathrock band that recently released a debut EP, Nox Novacula: Also kaelan Mikla and Whisperign Sons are going to drop an album in the following weeks. The songs they have released for preview are already very promising:

Technically I should like this, since this group seems to aim for a very similar direction as Ganmi did and I liked them, but it isn't even nearly as enjoyable. Could be the vocalist… or the shitty synths. And the uninspiring riffs. A shame, because I really longed for more early 00s Undercode style shit and Ganmi were doing it so well (but unfortunately existed for a blink of a second).

His old band Mist of rouge was on Matina and then produced through UCP. I thought more people were aware of that, since Mist of rouge did have some cult following back then (especially in the 00s, when UCP was the shit).

They are really on a roll. So far i liked the last singles, thankfully they didn't changed their sound so much under starwave (which was everybody's concern). I just wish they'd finally release a full lenght album though. But I guess splitting albums into a shitload of singles and selling them individually makes more money :V

Not just vibes, I actually think they took that elody from a MM song. It is so oddly familiar…

Who needs kids when you can have cats.

Are you a gay man? Do you know gay guys? Because you sure are generalizing things based on your subjective "experience". And that whole "feminine men are not wanted by gay guys" thing falls apart even when you take it to reverse the orientation. If all gay and bi men only like men who are stereotypically masculine how come straight and bisexual women who are also into men can be attracted to androgynous and feminine guys? By your logic absolutely no one would be attracted to fem guys. And we all know that's not true. Also go ask some of the gay guys here on MH if they find bandmembers hot. I am sure you will some crushing answers.

Man, I used to be addicted to this band, especially the early stuff from 1999 to ca. 2004, but listened to their post 2004 religiously as well. Then Daisuke died and I kinda stopped listening to them... no idea why, because the death of any other musician has never influenced me in my music listening habits and I never stopped listening to a band or musician just ecause they/a member died. It's not even like I am in grief, though I was certainly extremely shocked when news of daisuke's death reached me. Maybe I should try and revisit them...

Strange. I am a registered user there and never had this problem, even when I downloaded a lot of files. But then I also use their MEGASync app and not the download button. Maybe try that?

So, they had their first live. Any new infos on that single? has it been released already? They probably mentioned it somewhere on twitter, but I can't read japanese. Also btw good to see more bands emulating the early 00s sound. They remind me, stylin-wise, a bit of early UCP bands or Mist of Rouge.

Exactly this. They really dropped one repetitive release after another and in such small time windows. Most of their songs are really same-ish, some are even simply rewrites with different lyrics. Yet, there was SO much potential in this band as demonstrated by their excellent V.A. tracks, it's a shame they simply couldn't make use of it and always fell back into old behavior, playing it safe. So, it's sad to see them go, but it was so expected for it to happen. Hopefully the members join new kote/homage kei groups ;3 Also this means that gossip is the only band signed on ains, right? That label too had such a promising future, could have easily become the next UCP, but Yukika somehow throws that away and I am sure it won't be long until this ship sinks just like RR did.

^I do, because I thing I dled their stuff in the past. But yeah, they aren't the most popular and have since been forgotten. Which I feel happened with a few of UCP more unconventional bands, as well as some of their early groups. Most people do not remember Karen or Lamina either. Though as far as I can gather VAGERKE were also signed to one of Kisaki's many (tax evasion) sublabels, so essentially not really an UCP band. That may have contributed to people not caring much about them, lol. There were actually a few bands signed to a shady UCP sublabel or managed/produced by UCP. Inartistic gathered quite some good info about it on his UCP fanpage and it's interesting to see and read how complicated and a big mess that whole label history and management is. Personally I like Matina and its bands more than UCP, but that's because I like the Matina sound more. Early UCP was the shit however, mostly becvause it was a direct continuation of Kisaki's former label. Mar'derayla and early 12012 had that late Matina sound, which made them pretty amazing. So while I prefer MIRAGE and Syndrome over Phantasmagoria, the latter still holds a special place because I discovered them before and exposed me to that label. Some of their songs are indeed classics and wonderful to listen too, but the problem with kisaki's songwriting is that he recycles and rehashes melodies and whole chunks of songs way too often. Also re-releasing the same song or album a hundred times. Wheras other bands on that label shit out one single after another full of new material, Mago just managed to have a hand full of songs in an entirety of a four year lifespan. Second Mard'derayla, absolutely amazing blend of oldschool with the emerging 00s sound. Still need to buy their CDs though (that reminds me to save my $$) HISKAREA was also in that vein. Sadly didn't release much and weren't actrive for long (I guess they had to die to make Mago happen). Riku had an awesome and unique voice back then. Towards the end of Lin he kinda got bored, at least his singing seemed like that to me. Speaking of Riku, I never really bothered with UCP chariots. No idea why, since they were regarded as Phantasmagoria 2.0. Recently listened to their newer songs. It's nice, but def more like contemporary VK (some would say better, as they are no longer doing what they always done). Riku sounds more motivated too. Also agree that early VIDOLL and 12012 were flawless and amazing. VIDOLL had such a unique sound up until their first full lenght and pretty much until they departed from UCP. The early EPs especially are so different than anything else that has been put out in the scene. I will never understand why they ditched that and became generic and replacable. Same with 12012. NEGA is so-so for me. I really, really have to be in the right mood to stomach their songs, and yeah, that's mostly because I am not a huge -core fan (except hardcore punk, but that's like we all know a different genre entirely) and damn, Jin's voice sure is grating. And as I can hear from the Black Swan previews he hasn't really gotten any better either. Quite a similar case for brodiea. Though they are so crappy in a lovanble way, that i truly like them. But I remember that back in ye olden days on MH and lastfm people really gave their fans some shit, lol. They were pretty much the VARJA of UCP.

My fav song by goth queen Luci'fer Luscious Violenoue (come back!!! )- SAERAPHITA PHAIDIA - DARK SIDE 黒色エレジー (Kokushoku Elegy) - Sun Stroke. Amazing goth band often compared to siouxsie and the banshees. their singer died recently... RIP Art Marju Duchain - Demon est Deus inversus For how long they were active they released almost nothing. A shame. VAMQUET is good though, but different.

way too many. def those you posted too, @AimiGen7. Gauze is a great album, Tsumi to Batsu is an absolute fav, as well as the other famous classics, like raison d'etre, ZAN, Schwein no isu and of course Mazohyst of decadence. Will forever be my fav Dir en grey album (and I will forever not get used to their remakes, except maybe for the new ZAN, since it does sound at least like the original) Also seconding La'Mule. I prefer inspire and Sterilization over Curse though. That PV too. Classic 2edgy 90s/early 00s cheese. Madeth too had such amazing songs. For some reason i do not stan missantroop or Lucifer as much (as most other people do), instead I luv their album opener (+ the intro, because scary baby screams are the best in VK) I generally have big soft spot for matina bands. Usually the dark and edgy stuff, but Syndrome delivered some good melodic tunes as well: Do we also count the early 00s and newer (or recently formed) kote bands as oldschool? Like Shulla,Etcetera, Metis Gretel, La'veil Mizeria, etc.?

revive the thread with this nice post of Kyohei (showing him and Hisui back in the 90s/early 00s without make-up) I really wonder how Hisui looks now…

sry val for the delay of my payment, totally forgit about it >__< Payed it this morning, hope it's ok D:

well, they'll need that money obviosuly so they can start up their pizza restaurants