Trombe 22025 Posted July 9, 2016 Gargoyle new album "誑(taburakashi)" will be released at 2016/08/31 (3,240yen) [track list] 01.野蛮回路 02.clumbling roar 03.Dragon skull 04.OVERPOWER 05.NO ENTRY 06.誰がために雨は降る 07.GO GO ガラパゴス 08.Massive thrill 09.Daredevil 10.Be daring 11.只一筋に往く 12.異血 3 Jigsaw9, JamesR and tetsu_sama69 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGM_Oficial 1964 Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) Whoah, I didn't know that this band still exists o_o Edited July 9, 2016 by IGM_Oficial Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Piass 3472 Posted July 10, 2016 9 hours ago, IGM_Oficial said: Whoah, I didn't know that this band still exists o_o And yet, they released a lot of things ! 1 IGM_Oficial reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) Good ol' Gargoyle with another good ol' album. I'm expecting the usual good ol' stuff. Bring it on! @IGM_OficialYou should check out some of their later albums then, they've still got that metal fire~ This is the opening track from their last full-length: Edited July 10, 2016 by Jigsaw9 1 IGM_Oficial reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesR 119 Posted July 10, 2016 [Serious questions] Why aren't they considered a VK band? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) @JamesRTo my knowledge, they consider themselves to be part of the metal scene, not the vk scene, plain and simple (plus they sound pretty much straight-up heavy/thrash metal, as far as Japanese bands go). Thus, even if they dress quite flamboyantly, they're not vk. Kinda like how other bands like KIshidan or The Alfee aren't vk, even tho they've been known to wear weird stuff from time to time. Another good indicator of "vk or not vk" is to look at what kind of bands they tour with usually... if it's almost exclusively with visual kei bands, then the band is sure to be visual kei. Tho this logic falters a bit with Gargoyle, because (if I remember correctly) there might have been instances where they performed gigs with some vk bands... but don't quote me on that, it's just a vague memory/hunch. xD In any case, they tend to stick to playing with other metal bands. Edited July 10, 2016 by Jigsaw9 1 JamesR reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGM_Oficial 1964 Posted July 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Jigsaw9 said: @JamesRTo my knowledge, they consider themselves to be part of the metal scene, not the vk scene, plain and simple (plus they sound pretty much straight-up heavy/thrash metal, as far as Japanese bands go). Thus, even if they dress quite flamboyantly, they're not vk. Kinda like how other bands like KIshidan or The Alfee aren't vk, even tho they've been known to wear weird stuff from time to time. So, Seikima-II and Vaniru can be included on this group? Why do they have profiles on Vkdb (Seikima-II's is empty)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted July 10, 2016 imo Seikima-II are definitely just hard rock/heavy metal, not vk. Vaniru is a bit more trickier I guess (?). xD Anyway we're getting kinda off-topic here I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ikki 807 Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/10/2016 at 8:50 AM, Jigsaw9 said: @JamesRTo my knowledge, they consider themselves to be part of the metal scene, not the vk scene, plain and simple (plus they sound pretty much straight-up heavy/thrash metal, as far as Japanese bands go). Thus, even if they dress quite flamboyantly, they're not vk. Kinda like how other bands like KIshidan or The Alfee aren't vk, even tho they've been known to wear weird stuff from time to time. Another good indicator of "vk or not vk" is to look at what kind of bands they tour with usually... if it's almost exclusively with visual kei bands, then the band is sure to be visual kei. Tho this logic falters a bit with Gargoyle, because (if I remember correctly) there might have been instances where they performed gigs with some vk bands... but don't quote me on that, it's just a vague memory/hunch. xD In any case, they tend to stick to playing with other metal bands. I never have read that Gargoyle consider themselves not VK. I know Buck-Tick has been saying since the 1990s that they weren't VK, but never Gargoyle. I'm pretty sure back in the day, Gargoyle performed with a bunch of early VK bands such as X and Kamaitachi. Former member She-ja was a member of Sister's No Future. Kiba used to have a radio show with former BY-SEXUAL member, Ryo, several years ago. In recent years, Gargoyle mostly perform with VK bands or guys formerly from VK bands of their era: Jolly Pickles, Aura, Tokyo Yankees, Ladies Room, Billy & the Sluts, The Dead Pop Stars, test-No., The Slut Banks, Valentine D.C., among others. They even done shows with Kamijo, UCHUSENTAI:NOIZ, and Dacco. If they have actually said they are not a visual kei band, they're making it real hard not to call them a non-VK band when they perform with VK bands so much. They might have performed with metal bands like Earthshaker and 44Magnum, but you will see them playing with their VK peers more than their Japameta peers. I don't see how The Alfee would be consider VK, unless you're basing it off of Takamizawa's image alone. Sakazaki and Sakurai have always been normal looking people. Takaizawa is more '80s metal cheese ball than VK. I always compare his image thing to something like Malmsteen's cheesy image. With Kishidan, I always considered them as a parody band or something similar to Slade, the '70s glam rock band, image wise. I'm pretty sure Japan sees Kishidan as a parody band regarding their image, as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites