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Hi. I’m one of the really old fans. I visited Tokyo in 1995 and came back to the US (NYC) with a pile of Luna Sea CDs and VHS tapes. At that time there was nothing about Luna Sea or visual kei on the English-language internet. Actual nothing. Well, the internet barely existed, it was just transitioning to websites from bulletin boards. I made some mix cassettes and handed them out to my friends. Around ’96 or maybe ’97 I checked the internet again, and now we have something: California sisters Freda and Joannie’s website Rockin’ Heaven, and the X Japan ML on cohprog. It was tiny at first, like maybe 100 people. This was the entire Western VK fandom. We had all discovered Japanese music either on a trip to Japan, or through a Japanese friend. A few of us were so noisy about talking about other bands who were not X that the Jrock ML was formed, so we took our OT over there and it exploded. There was no file sharing or international online stores at that time. I created a page to bring something like tape-sharing classifieds online, a manually updated list of people who had stuff to trade and what they were looking for. We copied cassettes and sent them by postal mail. It’s laughably low-tech compared to nowadays, but suddenly we were all listening to multiple bands instead of just our one gateway band. The Jrock ML membership and traffic was exploding week by week. There was one loud and cynical French guy who was really into super-obscure bands and claimed that he went to Japan and was friends with bands, but nobody knew whether to believe him or not. Word of mouth was definitely a thing — I gave my little sister a few mix tapes when she went to college and she came back for break cursing me out for those tapes, because all her friends had fallen in love with them and now she had to listen to VK all the time. I think it was around ’98 that we started to see some improvements in bandwidth and webpages that let us take it to the next level. There was a guy in Singapore (Paul? maybe?) where they had better wiring, who first started putting up a few tiny RA and RV files on a site, and he had one of the early message boards too. By this time I was out of school and my circle of friends and I were working in the early internet, which gave me access to equipment, software, and bandwidth that almost nobody had at that time. My friends were installing the actual wiring and servers to build the NYC internet, and uh… while they were at it, they stashed an old computer somewhere to be our own FTP server. We put up my files (I had a ton of stuff because I’d been running the tape-exchange listing, and also I bought stuff from the Japanese stores in NYC) and allowed other people to upload their own. I added a message board which was originally supposed to be for requests or whatever but it took on a life of its own as a discussion place. Maybe ’99 or 2000, CD Japan opened. The fandom was growing exponentially and everyone was trying to explore new bands, and even tiny indie bands were getting fan bases. Lots of people were putting up file sharing sites, using multiple GeoCities accounts to create these huge octopus sites. We started to have meetups IRL. Go (JrockNYC) and his friends had a cover band and put together some meetups around NYC. Cameron was in Tokyo and writing on Glam Japan, and some of us were traveling to Japan too. A few people went to that huge concert that Luna Sea did, Dir en gray had fans going, me and a bunch went to Lareine’s last tour in August 2000. (I met Cameron there for the first time) By maybe 2002-ish most of the file sharing was happening on the P2P networks, and Livejournal was becoming popular. I moved to Tokyo in early 2002. Go was living in Tokyo too and documenting the scene on JrockNYC. It would be nice to read it again but I don’t think his old stuff is on line any more. This is getting to the time period where there are lots of people who were around to remember, so I’ll leave it.
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I had the impression the new singles were going to be continuing the new arc of the Emigre storyline, since he played some of them last night and will play more here and there on the upcoming tour. In Sang, the Emigre energy source system as introduced by Louis and the Count Saint Germain avoided a lot of social problems in Japan by limiting applicants to senior citizens. In this new arc, from the concert & pamphlet last night, the USA is about to implement the Emigre system, but enrollment is compulsory. Just before the law is officially ratified, the DOE secretary and his wife are mysteriously assassinated. Now some vigilant NSA agents are investigating. What will they discover? Tune in to the next live to find out... (I can’t go though) One of the new songs, like Eye of Providence, is in a symphonic metal style. There was another one that had a kind of similar vibe to Ecstasy, with a steady, powerful, sexy rhythm; but where Ecstasy has a lot of electronic elements layered in the arrangement, this unreleased one is more of a straightforward 4-member rock band sound. (Edit: at the end of this one, flashpots exploded on stage as the car bomb assassination happened in the story. So, that kind of song.) The last unreleased song was a ballad.
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I lived in Tokyo and went to all their local shows and many of the away ones too during their second period in the 2000s. Something that I think isn’t fully appreciated among international fans is just how unpopular and broke Lareine was during that time, and how desperately and passionately they worked despite the obstacles. But every concert was magical. It had to be. There was no reason to do it otherwise, and a million reasons to quit. It felt like borrowed time, and I was always so happy and grateful to be able to see them despite the bittersweet feeling they would have been better off doing something else. They always looked exhausted at events, rarely had new costumes, rarely even had new goods because I think they had trouble coming up with deposits. Cheki didn’t start to become a thing until late in their history (2005-ish?) when they’d already spent years grinding away with little return. I suspect the reason why they were able to put out as many releases as they did is because back during Lareine’s Sony days Kamijo invested in buying a bunch of his own production equipment. I think normally an indie band at that level wouldn’t have had those resources. But time to write and rehearse seemed like a scarce commodity too back then. There were times when Kamijo looked half dead. And every time Lareine did a little tour we could watch Kamijo perk up day by day, at the same time as us fans with normal lives were getting more and more tired as the tour went on. It always made me wonder what on earth kind of awful schedule he normally had in Tokyo, juggling the band and probably a part-time job, that going on tour would feel like a vacation to him. (Later on when I read Versailles interviews, they mentioned that Kamijo and Hizaki first met while working at Third Stage.) Unfortunately by 2003 Lareine was already perceived as old, out of date, and uncool. A ‘90s band. If they hadn’t paused in 2000 maybe things would have been different, maybe they could have built a solid base like Dir or Pierrot. But coming back in 2003 it was too late, the trends had already changed. Lareine had few fans back then, and it seemed like all of us were fans from before. I never met any Japanese fans who said they were new. (only international fans) Young VK fans didn’t care. Lareine wrote some of the currently trendy themes into their music in ways that were interesting instead of pure copy/paste, and us old fans had fun, but nobody else cared. They did some amazing experimental stuff on stage, and nobody saw it except us few old fans. To give you an idea of how young fans perceived them, there was a big outcry when Versailles was announced because people didn’t think a pansy weak vocalist with a thin high voice like Kamijo should be playing with awesome (but unknown) guitarists like Hizaki and Teru. They really got outraged when we heard Versailles was going to have a heavy sound. I got in a lot of arguments online at that time with people who clearly thought I was a delusional fangirl for saying that Kamijo’s voice is powerful enough to sing heavier music. In February 2006 Kazumi announced that he was leaving Lareine and retiring from music. I never blamed him, I was thankful that he had done his best to help bring us great music for so long despite the hardships. But this was really the beginning of the end. Lareine put out big ads in the major VK magazines looking for a new drummer, and they even went out of their way to explicitly write that they would take applications from anybody regardless of age or sex or nationality, as long as they could play and would love the band. I think that would be shocking to see in a band’s want ad even today, and this was in 2006 before the explosion of international tours had happened. But they weren’t able to find a drummer, and then during the summer Mayu vanished again. Honestly I can’t even blame Mayu either for wanting to quit under the circumstances, but it was terrible that he vanished without communication or warning. The Club Citta live they did in October was originally supposed to be a Halloween Party event live with multiple bands, not their last live. I went to as many of Kamijo’s anniversary tour dates as I could, since it was so special. The Tokyo final with everyone was amazing. So glad I went. p.s. “Drama” was so great live that to this day I can still half-hear the performance in my memory, even though they only played it twice in Sapporo in February 2006 before Kazumi left. It was so powerful. Kazumi and Emiru were much louder than on the studio version; this song actually has a really sexy rhythm when you can hear them. Mayu took the electric part instead of the acoustic one. They came together solid and strong booming on the beat in that last chorus on the song, Kamijo singing powerfully instead of gently, and hard on the beat like the others. I regret not bringing my MD recorder to Sapporo, but I never imagined that those 2 nights would be the last times we could enjoy Lareine normally.
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To me it sounds like 乱される. Corrupted / thrown into confusion by the scent of roses
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Yes, I frequently find it’s easy to “hear” the basic furitsuke. IMO this is a characteristic shared by all kinds of dances and their matching danceable music. Waltz, Charleston, twist, twerk. You can identify them by the rhythm. Furitsuke is just the same. I imagine most (all?) bands write song arrangements while thinking about this — if you want a song that’s going to raise the crowd energy by being easy to dance to, it has to have a structure and rhythms that are easy for fans to match to popular dance moves.
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So it was deleted because someone reported his account over the name. But he thinks it might be convenient after all. Was there anything to verify if that Instagram is really him?
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I'm not surprised. It really looked like he had retired from public life and just wanted to live quietly hanging out with his old friends, and it's awkward using the same account for fans/promo and friends. In one of the Facebook posts, he said something about how 90% of the people who had friended him on FB were foreign, and he regretted not having studied English. But he was happy because he had already found 7 of his former classmates, and that was half of his class. I think now that he successfully got in touch with that many of his old friends, it makes sense to start over with a new account just for them.
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His introduction in the corner says he no longer had a reason to be in Tokyo since he wasn’t singing any more, so he moved back home. He started using Facebook in hopes of finding his old hometown friends, but he doesn’t really know how to use it. Be careful of fake accounts, this is the real Juka. (he says)
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Versailles is one of the bands that does male-only lives. At first it seemed like the main reason was to promote a welcoming atmosphere for male fans too, so they didn’t feel excluded. It worked, and I think their fandom may have ended up being at least 30 to 40% male. They continued the tradition of male- and female-only lives each year, and I think part of it is like emmy said, because of the atmosphere. Some of the male fans at Versailles lives were pretty rough, and when they got heated up during the concert it was scary for us female fans. It’s not fun when a guy that weighs 50% more than you takes a running flying dive right into you. You’d think it would be common sense to go easy when you’re jumping against someone who’s a lot smaller, but it took repeated blog posts from Hizaki asking the male fans to be gentle to the girls before it became less bad. Anyway, from what I’ve heard, the male-only lives are pretty rough, and it sounds like a lot of guys are happy to have the opportunity to roughhouse and go wild on a level playing field with teammates who can take it. And when it’s a girls-only live, it’s really nice to be able to see easily and feel physically safe.
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I strongly recommend using the cloak room or a coin locker, whatever the venue has. (Unless you intend to stand in the very back of the venue) I’ve been to a lot of Versailles concerts and they almost always ended up really crowded in the front and middle areas. It’s hard to predict how it will be in Toronto since it’s their first time there, plus we’re all 5 years older now so a lot of fans are likely to be less energetic/crazy than before the hiatus. But it used to be that we would routinely be absolutely crushed in the crowd, dripping in sweat, walking out with injuries. And Versailles themselves are going to be encouraging the crowd to squeeze forward and get rowdy, and throwing out picks and drumsticks which always turns that part of the audience into a shark feeding frenzy. So just in case, I recommend putting everything you can into the cloak room, and taking no more into the audience than a tiny, sturdy bag with the essentials. (cross-body or waist, so your hands are free) To people who aren’t attending this concert: The VIP tickets come with some kind of merch set. I have a feeling we're not going to be able to choose when we get it, we'll just have to take it when it's given.
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I think it's an umiyuri. It's a type of sea creature called "crinoid" or "sea lily" in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinoid
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I recommend not taking the train to Sapporo unless you’re already going to be near there. I’ve made the trip from Tokyo to Sapporo by Shinkansen with a JR pass and it was around 9 hours one way. The Shinkansen train on the northern route isn’t as fast as the Tokyo~Osaka segment, and IIRC somewhere north of Sendai you have to transfer to a regular slow train for the rest of the way. If you’ll be commuting between Kyoto and Tokyo it’s worth getting a JR pass for that. But for Sapporo, it’s best to fly if you can manage it. I’d only take the train to Sapporo if that segment of the trip is falling during a time when you would have a JR pass anyway for other reasons. If you would have to buy a longer JR pass in order to fit in Sapporo, it might better to get a short one and do Sapporo separately as a plane trip on a discount airline. It's better to buy in advance. Lower prices, better ticket numbers. For my favorite band I asked my friends who are also hardcore fans to help me get tickets to see them, but for the other bands I want to see (that my friends don't like) I asked a shopping service. One of the lives I want to see is almost certain to sell out before I arrive. I used White Rabbit Express. They entered the preorder lottery on e-plus for me, shipped the tickets, and I received them safely already. p.s. My trip is in late July, so I will miss you.
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I used to live in Tokyo and when I go back for visits I try to stay near Shinjuku station, in that area around Shin-Okubo, Okubo, Nishi-Shinjuku. I think there are a couple of business hotels near Like an Edison for around 7,000 yen per night. Since I like to go for 2 to 3 weeks and stay in Tokyo the whole time, I’ve been getting places on Airbnb so I can have a kitchen. For my next trip I got a studio apartment near Shin-Okubo for about $800 (USD) for 2 weeks. It’s a lot more than normal rent, but cheaper than a business hotel in the area. Airbnb also has some guesthouse-style places with private bedrooms and shared kitchens and bathrooms which are much cheaper. As a resident of Japan I was usually stuck on Willer Bus when I traveled to other cities, but as a tourist I get the JR pass and travel in luxury on the Shinkansen. Worth it. If you’re getting on the Shinkansen in Tokyo and going west/south, try to use Shinagawa station instead of Tokyo station. Shinagawa has a nicer layout and is much easier for transfers, and it has better bentos for sale. Those of you coming to Tokyo from other cities might want to get off in Shinagawa instead of Tokyo too. Outside Tokyo I normally get business hotels on Rakuten, but In Osaka I’ve usually stayed at Hotel Chuo in the Dobutsuen-mae area. That neighborhood is sketchy by Japanese standards, but it’s clean and safe compared to Western cities. This is one of the better hotels in that area. It has private guest rooms and shared bathrooms, and advance bookings are 2600 yen/night for a single. Every time I’ve been there the clientele seems to be a mix of bangya and foreign backpackers. http://www.chuogroup.jp/chuo/english/index.html
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I just ordered it on Amazon JP. It seemed like it would be super difficult to get because it's so indie, but it turned out to be easy. Amazon's international shipping is cheap too. I'm hoping my CD arrives in one piece with such cheap shipping, but if this turns out to be a good way to buy from Japan I will be really happy. Link for anyone else who wants to try: https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01N7YPY6M/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_asp_maQrM.XP48SVN
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Thanks for catching that! I edited the post above to add it.
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I scanned the lyrics and put them on my Tumblr. I scanned them at 300 dpi so you can see things that are normally too small to read, like the ruby for 音楽/アナタ in La Musique. (will edit that now) http://romancekakumei.tumblr.com/post/157973409154/lineage-lyrics-scans
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La Musique かつてそれは貴族達のために招かれ 宴の度 宮廷に響いた 美しすぎるメロディー 勇気や希望 時に涙を与えて 彼らの心を操る 芸術という爵位を捨て 民衆にさえ寄り添う そんな音楽を いま守りたい 私たちを出会わせてくれた感謝を 旋律で貫いた貴族のセレネイド 残酷な時代だから抱きしめたい 夢を孤独を愛の言葉を そう 載せて音楽は (アナタ is written above 音楽) Ah どんな時代でも奏で続けている Ah どんな時代でも愛を奏でている 人々の想いを願いを背負って 旋律で貫いた貴族のセレネイド 残酷な時代だから抱きしめたい 夢を孤独を愛の言葉を そう 載せて音楽は (アナタ is written above 音楽) 愛を奏でている 私たちと共に 残酷な時代だから激しく燃えて 旋律で貫いた愛はコンチェルト 重ね交わる二人のように Ah 人と音楽は (アナタ is written above 音楽) Shadows Fang あなたと同じ時代に生まれて 肩を並べ風を受ける 誰かが出す少しの疑問も 何一つも逃がさない I Believe. We have a Sympathy. 宿命に飲み込まれて 傷が共鳴してゆく どんなに独りで探してみても 出せない答えがここにはあるから さぁ避けていた群れに戻ろう 大きな獲物を仕留めるために 孤独を好んで群れをさけて 誰も知らない場所にいた あなたともし出会ってなければ いまここにはいない I Believe. You are my Destiny. 運命を描き出して 遠吠え 共鳴してゆく どんなに独りで探してみても 出せない答えがここにはあるから さぁ避けていた群れに戻ろう 大きな獲物を仕留めるため Ah 強い風を 共に受け止めて 私たちはいまここに並んだ 孤独な狼 Inheritance 尊き人 あなたの中から叫ぶ声 未来の私へ 聞こえるでしょう? 幼い言葉が 感じるでしょう? 涙の温度 愛が分からない 羽ばたいた命を揺らす博愛の風 人は誰もが皆 望まれ生まれて 「特別な存在だよ」と言われることが 何より重く 鉛の翼になった 無償の愛の理由 分からないまま 大きすぎて怖かった 受け止め切れずに 確信が欲しい 羽ばたいた命を揺らす博愛の風 人は誰もが皆 望まれ生まれて 「特別な存在だから側にいてよ」と 愛する人と巡り会えたならば あなたがくれた尊き愛 分かるその時まで A Day Without You 街行く人波の中 すれ違う君に 香りで気づいて すぐに振り返る 他人の背中の奥 見失った後に 冷たい手のひらで不意の目隠し Ah このままずっと時間が止まってしまえばいい そんな胸の高鳴りを感じた いつしか二人は愛というものに慣れて ありのままの自分に甘えすぎた そんな日々の中 気付けなかった本音を 涙をこらえながら君は言った 「ねぇ … 気持ちがわからない」 君の言葉が分からない そばにいるから だから見えなくなる 君を失う事なんて考えられない 答えはその一つなのに 抱きしめることさえも出来なくて苦しめてた 「聞きたかった」 「でも聞くことなんて出来ず」 「ずっと 変わらないでいる気持ちを伝えて欲しくて」 だけど側にいればいるほど見えなくなる想い 当たり前の日々の中で苦しめ続けた 君を失う事なんて考えられない 答えはその一つなのに 抱きしめることさえも出来なくて苦しめてた Lineage 天井画を見上げ 鏡の間の中 並んで歩く自分にも気づかない 過去が見つめてくる 未来が目を逸らす 終わりのない駆け引き 繰り返して 絡まるように刻んで 数え切れないほど 自分と戦い 歩き続ける戦士は美しい 磨き上げたものは 剣ではなくて 曲がることなきその胸の信念 Because We have a Lineage 鏡に映る自分と (We have a Lineage) 見つめ合ってキスをした (We have a Lineage) 殺すのか?愛するのか? (We have a Lineage) 鏡の中に問いかけ 決断を迫る -Judgement- 信じられるものは 私だけ… 私だけ… あなただけ… Ah… 信じさせて Because We have a Lineage 鏡に映る自分と (We have a Lineage) 見つめ合ってキスをした (We have a Lineage) 殺すのか?愛するのか? (We have a Lineage) 隣にいるあなたの その瞳 映る私を いつまでも愛して (We have a Lineage) [The background image on the lyrics sheet for this song appears to be the Hall of Mirrors in Versailles] Marionette この誰もいない部屋で君が ずっと一人で遊んでいたのならば このテーブルに残された 小さな足跡は誰のものでしょう? 月の灯りが差し込み見えた 部屋に張り巡らされた秘密の糸 埃をかぶった針も 命を持たない彼らの体も 動き出した午前0時 僕の手を引き 見上げては踊ろうよと誘う Marionette (Doll Doll Play Doll Doll Play Doll Play) 真夜中の秘密 be dying to dance 真夜中の秘密 be dying to play 君が仕掛けた糸なら 踊らされてもいい この夜に 夢の中 午前0時僕に微笑み 見上げては踊ろうよと誘う Marionette Let’s Play (Doll Doll Play Doll Doll Play Doll Play) 真夜中の秘密 be dying to dance 真夜中の秘密 be dying to play 君が仕掛けて罠なら 踊らされてもいい この夜に I will heal loneliness So every night [In the first verse I hear テーブルの上に instead of このテーブルに, but this is what is written]
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Hi. I think song lyrics are one of the hardest things to translate. For a level reference I’ve passed N2 and have translated interviews from print materials, but I frequently find songs difficult to understand. One of the things that’s especially difficult about Japanese is that so many words are left out which need to be included in English because of our grammar, and that’s even more common in song lyrics. English doesn’t let us leave the phrase as vague as it was in Japanese, so we have to get into the writer’s head and explicitly state what they’re only implying. The use of transitive and intransitive verbs, regular vs. passive form, formality level, etc, are important clues, and non-native speakers tend to have difficulty with this. I have trouble with them too, and it’s not uncommon for me not to be sure who did what to whom until I read an interview where it’s explained in plain everyday Japanese. And I’ve seen plenty of translations by other people where they got that who/whom part completely backwards. It happens a lot. Anyway, my advice is to try to read or listen to interviews about the songs. It’s a lot easier if you know what the band meant to say before you try to translate their poetically incomplete phrases.
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