nullmoon 784 Posted August 14, 2015 So let's stop all the meta chatter about what other people think about what other people think. It doesn't make for good conversation. While I agree with your points, your closing statement irks me. Last time I checked, healthy debates and sharing an opinion actually makes for good conversation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted August 14, 2015 While I agree with your points, your closing statement irks me. Last time I checked, healthy debates and sharing an opinion actually makes for good conversation. There is a time and place for healthy debates and sharing opinions as well. This is the time but this is not the place. News topics should be left for generating/subduing hype and expectations for new releases. Meta discussions about thoughts, feelings, opinions towards the artist & each other should go in this topic. Meta discussions do not make for good discussion in news topics because then the topic stops being focused around the news and more around opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nullmoon 784 Posted August 14, 2015 Meta discussions do not make for good discussion in news topics because then the topic stops being focused around the news and more around opinions. Pretty sure you were dishing out a fair few opinions in this thread today, but OK. Message understood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rosebetz 302 Posted August 14, 2015 Easily whats the point of having a BAND if you release what others want and not what you want? Yeah you can get some or few opinions from others but you have to make MUSIC that you want to make that you will love in the first place as an artist thats what i think...^^ 3 nullmoon, Ro plz and Yukimoto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeus 7997 Posted August 14, 2015 Pretty sure you were dishing out a fair few opinions in this thread today, but OK. Message understood. This thought only occurred to me after my earlier post. Depending on how I feel about it after more thinking I will explain in more detail after tonight's maintenance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ro plz 1290 Posted August 14, 2015 Me reading Zeus's post: Easily whats the point of having a BAND if you release what others want and not what you want? Yeah you can get some or few opinions from others but you have to make MUSIC that you want to make that you will love in the first place as an artist thats what i think...^^ Yes. And in regards from the transition from TOXIC/DIVISION to Beautiful Deformity and these DOGMA clips, its a clear sign that they're back to making what they want. Is it wrong to think that we prefer something genuine (even if there are a few who have an issue with the direction or always have), vs something uninspired and boring? Also, important highlight....the continuity of "ballad" songs (Untitled, Dripping Insanity, Beautiful Deformity) is broken :/ Perfect example of growth, haha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukimoto 1237 Posted August 14, 2015 Also, important highlight....the continuity of "ballad" songs (Untitled, Dripping Insanity, Beautiful Deformity) is broken :/ Perfect example of growth, haha! Thats pretty much the one thing I look for in an album and it's gone as far as I can tell. They make such good ballads too. 1 emmny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmny 4139 Posted August 14, 2015 Thats pretty much the one thing I look for in an album and it's gone as far as I can tell. They make such good ballads too. i just realized honestly WHERE DID THE BALLADS GO!!!!!?!?!?!?!?! im mad 1 Yukimoto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukimoto 1237 Posted August 14, 2015 i just realized honestly WHERE DID THE BALLADS GO!!!!!?!?!?!?!?! im mad I just realized it when @The MAD Stallion brought it up. I was like wait, what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmny 4139 Posted August 14, 2015 I just realized it when @The MAD Stallion brought it up. I was like wait, what? i remembered when i was listening to the previews that there was no slow acoustic/light guitar ballad. im sure there's 1 or 2 ballads in there, they're just heavier than what we're used to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elazmus 1873 Posted August 14, 2015 I'm willing to bet that one or two of the mid-heavy sounding songs are actually what you'd consider ballads with misleading previews. The length of most of the tracks kind of stomps hard on hopes for a progressive approach, but I mean all songs have to progress somewhat XD even GazettE songs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SOTSOG 12 Posted August 14, 2015 Well, at least looks like album doesn't have songs like Shiver. Their pop-rock songs is the worst type of Gazette's songs for me. Anime openings. 2 TheStoic and Elazmus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Furik 832 Posted August 14, 2015 Sound a thousand times better than Division and Beautiful Deformity. 1 nullmoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elazmus 1873 Posted August 14, 2015 ^ This, SHIVER (The song itself) is the worst thing GazettE has ever done IMO. They just aren't a good band for anime openings, and anime openings are terrible to begin with. Honestly to this day when I hear that song I don't know how my fandom survived... Oh actually nvm I remember, so thankful for strong b-sides on that single... 1 SOTSOG reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukimoto 1237 Posted August 15, 2015 i remembered when i was listening to the previews that there was no slow acoustic/light guitar ballad. im sure there's 1 or 2 ballads in there, they're just heavier than what we're used to If there are some they must be the shortest ballads they produced considering the song lengths. Guess I'll revisit this after the full release though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jduv86 224 Posted August 15, 2015 I think Ominous and Grudge will be considered the ballads on this album. Hard ballads for the win! ^ This, SHIVER (The song itself) is the worst thing GazettE has ever done IMO. They just aren't a good band for anime openings, and anime openings are terrible to begin with. Honestly to this day when I hear that song I don't know how my fandom survived... Oh actually nvm I remember, so thankful for strong b-sides on that single... ROFL. I like the opening for Shiver and then its downhill when the verse starts lol But I think the worse song for Gazette is "Break Me" and the Fadeless B-side songs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Augie1995 325 Posted August 15, 2015 I read Zeus's second comment on Page 25 and just started slow clapping halfway through Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ro plz 1290 Posted August 15, 2015 I was worried the GazettE was gonna go down anime oblivion with SHIVER. Thank God they didn't and yes, I agree....that single had amazing B-sides. I like how An Unbearable Fact was a continuation of Naraku. That's what i was tryna get at in the earlier post. I loved how there was that ONE song that served continuity to another. Sucks that its not apparent (at least from what we know). To me the continuity is when the songs have the same keys, same time tempo but have a relatively different song composition. Its so cool. 2 Zeus and jduv86 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jigsaw9 6783 Posted August 15, 2015 Coming back after one week, and boom, all these pages... Anyway, listened to the samples, can't really say anything, other than the snippets sound like a mixture between BEAUTIFUL DEFORMITY and lynch (or something like that... anyway, a nice mini-evolution while still being undeniably gazette-ish)... which is pretty much okay for me so far, I guess. We'll see how it turns out. 1 CAT5 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ada Suilen 652 Posted August 16, 2015 I will tell my thoughts after listening to the whole thing, because with only one full song (which I enjoyed very much) and 10 seconds of preview for others I cannot give a final opinion of the product... So -10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokage 5930 Posted August 16, 2015 After listening to the previews a bit more, tracks 4 and 7 seem the most interesting to me personally so far.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pazzi314 11 Posted August 16, 2015 JPU Records confirmed today that DOGMA will release simultaniously for the digital version, with a physical release to follow on Oct 2nd. https://www.facebook.com/JPUrecords/posts/1158553650825043 1 jduv86 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seimeisen 4406 Posted August 16, 2015 The GazettE were featured on Metal Injection six days ago, how the fuck did I miss this? "THE GAZETTE's New Song Is Japan's Answer To Bands Like KATATONIA" - Metal Injection I still haven't heard OMINOUS, but as a Katatonia fan, an article name like that inspires confidence. 3 emmny, jduv86 and doombox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doombox 4421 Posted August 16, 2015 I didn't see that either. O_O But that's awesome! Happy they are covering more than just Babymetal on the japanese front these days. 2 Seimeisen and ghost reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear 1817 Posted August 16, 2015 "THE GAZETTE's New Song Is Japan's Answer To Bands Like KATATONIA" 4 Eraser, Pretsy, Karma’s Hat and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
