WhirlingBlack

fuck awards for music, gimme awards for BEST USERS

“If you don’t board the ark,
I will not board it too.
You will be my tranquil haven till the very end”

I would estimate I started lurking here pretty soon after things got off the ground, I remember back in the day people advertising Tainted World as a replacement for the Batsu download forum which it's now-infamous admin Kevin decided to take down after being told off by someone or just having some stroke of paranoia. Either way, as long as Batsu flourished I only used TW for downloads and once that forum started declining and I simultaneously had some harsh encounters over there I went into lurker mode for several years. I decided to make my comeback only in 2012 at the insistence of other members here ( @Biopanda and @allisapp) and started hanging out regularly in the chat primarily, which is why I'm sure I'm most familiar to the chatbox crew. 
 
All things considered, those years when the chat had it's most intense activity, were truly great. Like @Disposablesaid, it was a short (I think less than two years?) but very intense period and so many things passed by. There was the DemonAndroid drama involving his many cousins of unknown provenance who always seemed to provide "legit" (read: Youtube) rips of wanted CDs. Then in the end when his transcodes got banned all he could do was ask people to come upstairs.
 
I remember the guy from Colombia who hung out for like two weeks and talked about trains and raping corpses. It was a strange little parenthesis but I remember it well for some reason.
 
There was drama back and forth with Ryu/DarkWater/tons of other alt accounts, long speculations and teasing about what sai actually looks like, discussions about angura rarez in the old old Skype chat that caused Prism to ban me and a bunch of my friends... Zess and his ever shorter username. I'm sure there's more but it takes time to remember everything.
 
There have been differences in opinion between how a forum is best run to be sure between myself and some of the staff, culminating in the revolt and finally break which I helped facilitate. But ultimately I think this forum gained a lot from that event. Just like the protestant reformation forced much needed changes to the catholic church, this place underwent a lot of changes for the better after that and I can honestly say right now that I'm quite happy with the way things are. I've met a lot of amazing people here and I can honestly say that it really has changed my life for the better. If anyone still have hard feelings from those days, I hope we can move on and hopefully face the coming years as a community.
 

Waiting for the drummer to reform HATED any day now. 

also @ZeusComing here to set the facts about Dir en grey straight:
This is incorrect, Setsuna was a WIP project song by Dir en grey that developed over the course of 1997 (starting out as 5 minutes and evolving into a nearly 7 minute track) until finally being scrapped in the first half of 1998 for reasons unknown. Whether Setsuna was an official title or one given to it by fans is still subject to speculation.
 
"Ai Murasaki Iro" Is in fact pronounced "Ranshishoku" based on a newspaper interview which I scanned and upped some year ago from a indie magazine made in early 1998. I know this due to the fact that the name was written out in katakana. It's the onyomi pronunciation of the same kanji. They played this song at every oneman live starting from August 1997 until their last indies live at the Budokan, after which it was scrapped due to poor audience response, supposedly.
 
They  had another unreleased longer track that they played throughout the second half of 1997 and on and off into early 1998 which then subsequently disappeared as well. No known title for this track.
 
There was an early version of Mazohyst of Decadence played from 1997 which differed slightly.
 
raison detre had a early quite different  version which premiered at their oneman tour in late 1997 and evolved into it's current form during 1998.
 
ZAN is also one of the earliest songs they wrote, and it was played from their first tour in april 1997 and onwards in various stages of evolution until it arrived at the GAUZE form in late 1998.
 
Tsumi to Batsu was also performed during their last indies tour in a slightly different format.
 
They also premiered two new songs at the DUM SPIRO SPERO and Kisou part of the recent tour respectively which haven't been mentioned or played since. 
 
I could go on but I think that'll do for now.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Waiting for the drummer to reform HATED any day now. 

I don't know the other bands, but HATED were an amazing nagoya band from the mid-2000s, the vocalist went on to meth. which was decently popular for a short while. I'm sure there's still some downloads around here on the forum or the net for their maxi-single.
 
 

The weird part is that there was several unreleased Black:List songs that probably were recorded in some form or another... why not release those instead of pumping out the same three tracks over and over?

also @ZeusComing here to set the facts about Dir en grey straight:
This is incorrect, Setsuna was a WIP project song by Dir en grey that developed over the course of 1997 (starting out as 5 minutes and evolving into a nearly 7 minute track) until finally being scrapped in the first half of 1998 for reasons unknown. Whether Setsuna was an official title or one given to it by fans is still subject to speculation.
 
"Ai Murasaki Iro" Is in fact pronounced "Ranshishoku" based on a newspaper interview which I scanned and upped some year ago from a indie magazine made in early 1998. I know this due to the fact that the name was written out in katakana. It's the onyomi pronunciation of the same kanji. They played this song at every oneman live starting from August 1997 until their last indies live at the Budokan, after which it was scrapped due to poor audience response, supposedly.
 
They  had another unreleased longer track that they played throughout the second half of 1997 and on and off into early 1998 which then subsequently disappeared as well. No known title for this track.
 
There was an early version of Mazohyst of Decadence played from 1997 which differed slightly.
 
raison detre had a early quite different  version which premiered at their oneman tour in late 1997 and evolved into it's current form during 1998.
 
ZAN is also one of the earliest songs they wrote, and it was played from their first tour in april 1997 and onwards in various stages of evolution until it arrived at the GAUZE form in late 1998.
 
Tsumi to Batsu was also performed during their last indies tour in a slightly different format.
 
They also premiered two new songs at the DUM SPIRO SPERO and Kisou part of the recent tour respectively which haven't been mentioned or played since. 
 
I could go on but I think that'll do for now.
 
 
 
 
 
 

The weird part is that there was several unreleased Black:List songs that probably were recorded in some form or another... why not release those instead of pumping out the same three tracks over and over?

The weird part is that there was several unreleased Black:List songs that probably were recorded in some form or another... why not release those instead of pumping out the same three tracks over and over?

also @ZeusComing here to set the facts about Dir en grey straight:
This is incorrect, Setsuna was a WIP project song by Dir en grey that developed over the course of 1997 (starting out as 5 minutes and evolving into a nearly 7 minute track) until finally being scrapped in the first half of 1998 for reasons unknown. Whether Setsuna was an official title or one given to it by fans is still subject to speculation.
 
"Ai Murasaki Iro" Is in fact pronounced "Ranshishoku" based on a newspaper interview which I scanned and upped some year ago from a indie magazine made in early 1998. I know this due to the fact that the name was written out in katakana. It's the onyomi pronunciation of the same kanji. They played this song at every oneman live starting from August 1997 until their last indies live at the Budokan, after which it was scrapped due to poor audience response, supposedly.
 
They  had another unreleased longer track that they played throughout the second half of 1997 and on and off into early 1998 which then subsequently disappeared as well. No known title for this track.
 
There was an early version of Mazohyst of Decadence played from 1997 which differed slightly.
 
raison detre had a early quite different  version which premiered at their oneman tour in late 1997 and evolved into it's current form during 1998.
 
ZAN is also one of the earliest songs they wrote, and it was played from their first tour in april 1997 and onwards in various stages of evolution until it arrived at the GAUZE form in late 1998.
 
Tsumi to Batsu was also performed during their last indies tour in a slightly different format.
 
They also premiered two new songs at the DUM SPIRO SPERO and Kisou part of the recent tour respectively which haven't been mentioned or played since. 
 
I could go on but I think that'll do for now.
 
 
 
 
 
 

also @ZeusComing here to set the facts about Dir en grey straight:
This is incorrect, Setsuna was a WIP project song by Dir en grey that developed over the course of 1997 (starting out as 5 minutes and evolving into a nearly 7 minute track) until finally being scrapped in the first half of 1998 for reasons unknown. Whether Setsuna was an official title or one given to it by fans is still subject to speculation.
 
"Ai Murasaki Iro" Is in fact pronounced "Ranshishoku" based on a newspaper interview which I scanned and upped some year ago from a indie magazine made in early 1998. I know this due to the fact that the name was written out in katakana. It's the onyomi pronunciation of the same kanji. They played this song at every oneman live starting from August 1997 until their last indies live at the Budokan, after which it was scrapped due to poor audience response, supposedly.
 
They  had another unreleased longer track that they played throughout the second half of 1997 and on and off into early 1998 which then subsequently disappeared as well. No known title for this track.
 
There was an early version of Mazohyst of Decadence played from 1997 which differed slightly.
 
raison detre had a early quite different  version which premiered at their oneman tour in late 1997 and evolved into it's current form during 1998.
 
ZAN is also one of the earliest songs they wrote, and it was played from their first tour in april 1997 and onwards in various stages of evolution until it arrived at the GAUZE form in late 1998.
 
Tsumi to Batsu was also performed during their last indies tour in a slightly different format.
 
They also premiered two new songs at the DUM SPIRO SPERO and Kisou part of the recent tour respectively which haven't been mentioned or played since. 
 
I could go on but I think that'll do for now.
 
 
 
 
 
 

awesome stuff, supporting from a (long) distance \m/

We arranged our second night last weekend in honor of the screenings of the We Are X documentary and Yoshikis visit to Sweden. Here's the setlist:
 
2017.10.21 Pub Lunacy vol.1 - 『We are X -The Afterparty-』

Luna Sea - Mechanical Dance | 1992
X Japan - I'll Kill You | 1988
Dir en grey - 【KR】cube | 2000
GLAY - TWO BELL SILENCE | 1994
X Japan - Blue Blood | 1989
hide - EYES LOVE YOU | 1993
Aliene Ma'riage - 撲 『しもべ』 (Boku [Shimobe]) | 1999
D'espairsRay - 「モノクロ」になった最期の日 (Monokuro ni Natta Saigo no Hi) | 2001
sukekiyo - ANIMA | 2016
BUCK-TICK - ドレス (Dress) | 1993
Guniw Tools - Fancy Pink | 1998
Plastic Tree - ナミダドロップ (Namida Drop) | 2006
Pierrot - Adolf | 1997
X Japan - Rusty Nail | 1996
Luna Sea - PRECIOUS... | 1991
Sleep My Dear - Ask for Eyes | 1995
D'erlanger - XXX for YOU | 2007
KEEL - Water Lilies | 2015
DENTAKU - チョコロッテ (chocorotte) | 2009
the GazettE - Cassis | 2005
MUCC - 極彩 (Gokusai) | 2006 
D'espairsRay - ファシズム (Fascism) | 2001
X Japan - Stab me in the back | 1991
Dir en grey - GARDEN | 1997
Luna Sea - Dejavu | 1992
hide - D.O.D. (Drink Or Die) | 1994
Versailles - The Revenant Choir | 2007
Moi dix Mois - Monophobia | 2004
X Japan - Orgasm | 1989
Deluhi - S[K]ape:goat
和楽器バンド (wagakki band) - 戦 -ikusa- | 2015
L'Arc~en~ciel - Caress of Venus | 1996
X Japan - Art of Life (Shortened Lunacy ver.) | 1993
Dir en grey - Cage | 1999
La'Mule - ナイフ | 2000
黒夢 (Kuroyume) - 十字架との戯れ (Juujika to no Tawamure) | 1993
D'espairsRay - Gothic | 2002
ムック (MUCC) - 遺書　(Isho) | 2004
ねが (Nega) - quadrangle | 2007
lynch. - ADORE | 2015
the GazettE - Filth in the Beauty | 2006
Malice Mizer - 月下の夜想曲 (Gekka no Yasoukyoku) | 1998
蜉蝣 (Kagerou) - 絶望にサヨナラ (Zetsubou ni Sayonara) | 2005
deadman - Lunch Box | 2003
Buck-Tick - 蜉蝣-かげろう- (Kagerou) | 2006
X Japan - Week end | 1989
D'espairsRay - Garnet | 2003
Dir en grey - OBSCURE | 2003
ムック (MUCC) - 路地裏　僕と君へ (Rojiura boku to kimi he) | 2004
Malice Mizer - Beast of Blood | 2000
hide - DOUBT | 1993
メトロノーム (Metronome) - 絶望さん (Zetsubou-San) | 2006
FLOPPY - ヘルタースケルター | 2006
Schwarz Stein - New vogue children | 2003
Malice Mizer - Illuminati | 1998
Közi - Honey Vanity | 2003
D'espairsRay - Dears | 2005
X Japan - 紅 (Kurenai) 1988
Dir en grey - raison detre | 1999
hide - PINK SPIDER | 1998
Dir en grey - The Final | 2004
X Japan - X | 1986

No, they're real demotapes they gave out at those concerts. They are just comments of the band talking for a couple of minutes though, not live recordings or anything interesting.

They're from Switzerland not Italy though? I met them in Stockholm the other month and they were very nice people, I've never heard their music though.

I think Eiji still prints Dentaku CDs from time to time and sells them at various events and sometimes straight to stores, I sometimes see "new" releases at shops which I have no idea where they come from.
 
I'm pretty sure Dentaku was always something he just did to earn some extra money when he was threatened with eviction or ran out of beer money. 

DECAYS announced a series of lives for december, and they've brought a new look and lineup for the three shows!

 
lineup:
Vocal & Guitar Die (DIR EN GREY)
Drums 樫山 圭 (MOON CHILD)
Vocal & Guitar aie (the god and death stars)
Bass 拓磨 (ex.Sel’m)
 
lives
2017.12.16(土) 大阪・OSAKA BRONZE
2017.12.17(日) 愛知・名古屋HeartLand
2017.12.20(水) 東京・渋谷duo MUSIC EXCHANGE
 
edit: they will also distribute a live-limited single during their tour
 
thought i recognized takuma, lol good for him for this! die has good taste, even if his compositions are highkey subpar.
 
fanclub presale info @ decays.jp
 
 

Based on the oneman tours D'espairsRay could do before their first disbandment, I think it's fairly safe to say they had a decently large fanbase in Japan.
Also, as for being the target of dislike overseas, I'm not sure if we were in different circles or what but I distinctly remember them being quite hyped from an early stage, just the fact that they were one of the earliest bands to come to Europe back in 2004 should be proof that they received popularity fairly early here, the shows sold very well too.
 
I think bangya circles are kind of misleading often as well, because most people have one or at most two bands they hardcore follow and don't usually care much for other bands, so you can often end up thinking that it's representative of the VK fanbase as a whole. Sort of like how overseas VK fans have no idea who GLAY is since they don't have any fans, but in Japan they're one of the biggest VK bands around. It becomes a closed group culture of sorts, just like there are bands that are/were hyped on here that had next to no following in Japan.

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Thank you! I voted the same before seeing your post. It's one of my favorite songs and one of the few mucc songs not avaliable in good quality, because the official recording is terrible.
 
Everyone please help out and vote for Kranke!

Thank you! I voted the same before seeing your post. It's one of my favorite songs and one of the few mucc songs not avaliable in good quality, because the official recording is terrible.
 
Everyone please help out and vote for Kranke!

I voted for クランケ because why not

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